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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    In informal spoken English, e.g Which of these two mobile phones do you think is the best?

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Yes, you'll hear that all the time. Even people who should know better say things like 'Arsenal were the best team on the day' when only two teams were playing.
    Yes, we all do it occasionally.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    In informal spoken English, e.g Which of these two mobile phones do you think is the best?

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    Yes.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

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    I read the following from a book (Grammar In Action-Rosalind Fergusson):

    In England, the winter is the coldest season of the year. It is warmer in the spring. The countryside also looks nicer then. The weather is even hotter in the summer.The tress are prettiest in the auturmn, when their leaves change colour.
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    In superlative forms, we usually use "the -est. Why didn't the author use "the prettiest" in the above sentence?

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    I think that adding "the" in front of "prettiest" would imply that the trees are prettier than anything else that can be found during that season. Stated another way, I believe that omitting "the" implies the trees are in their prettiest form during that season, and that adding "the" would suggest they become prettier than anything else, such as plants.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Joseph and Mathew are the best friends.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Quote Originally Posted by Winwin2011 View Post
    Joseph and Mathew are the best friends.

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    No. It's wrong.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    You can say "Joseph and Matthew are best friends" or "Joseph and Matthew are the best of friends".
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Quote Originally Posted by emsr2d2 View Post
    You can say "Joseph and Matthew are best friends" or "Joseph and Matthew are the best of friends".
    I feel a difference between those two. Best friends are very important people in your life, especially when you are young. Most people have only one, or at most two or three 'best friends'. If two people are the best of friends, the relationship is less intense and less exclusive, in my opinion. It suggests to me that they get on very well, have a very friendly relationship, but that's all. I might say that my ex- and I are the best of friends, indeed that her husband and I are the best of friends. I wouldn't say that we were best friends.

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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Agreed. I should have said that I wasn't suggesting they mean the same thing, just that both constructions are possible.
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    Default Re: The tress are prettiest in the auturmn

    Quote Originally Posted by Novalia View Post
    I think that adding "the" in front of "prettiest" would imply that the trees are prettier than anything else that can be found during that season. Stated another way, I believe that omitting "the" implies the trees are in their prettiest form during that season, and that adding "the" would suggest they become prettier than anything else, such as plants.


    I don't agree with this at all.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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