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    Default Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Catherine: "If I lost my job, I would be in serious trouble."
    1. Catherine said that if she lost her job, she would be in serious trouble.
    2. Catherine said that if she had lost her job, she would have been in serious trouble.

    “If I were rich, I would buy a mansion in Beverly Hills,” she said.
    3. She said (that) if she were rich, she would buy a mansion in Beverly Hills.
    4. She said (that) if she had been rich, she would have bought a mansion in Beverly Hills

    Hi,
    When we report a second conditional sentence in indirect speech, back-shifting is optional or necessary?
    (I mean tense changing)

    Thank you.
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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    IMHO don't back shift as the meaning changes if you do.

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    I wish a native English speaker would comment on this thread too.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    I wish a native English speaker would comment on this thread too.

    Thanks in advance.
    Kathvit is a native speaker. What made you think that he/she wasn't?
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    I wish a native English speaker would comment on this thread too.
    Even if Kathvit were not a native speaker, that is not a particularly polite thing to say after they have taken the trouble to respond to your post; their response, by the way, is correct.

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    that is not a particularly polite thing to say after they have taken the trouble to respond to your post
    I have not disrespected.
    I had misread his profile. I thought his native language was Belgium language but now I see that it was his location not his native language.
    If you had liked his comment I wouldn't ask my question twice.
    Anyway, thanks everybody.

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    I have not disrespected.
    Even if Kathvit were not a native speaker, your wish for a native speaker's response was not a particularly polite thing to say after they had taken the trouble to respond to your post.
    I had misread his profile. I thought his native language was Belgium language but now I see that it was his location not his native language.
    It is normal to make some form of apology when one has made a mistake.
    If you had liked his comment I wouldn't have asked my question twice.
    So you do have a sense of humour. It is my fault that you were rude. .

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Even if Kathvit were not a native speaker, your wish for a native speaker's response was not a particularly polite thing to say after they had taken the trouble to respond to your post.
    Yes you are right. I shouldn't have said like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    It is my fault that you were rude. .
    Thanks for your nice words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb70012 View Post
    Thanks for your nice words.
    It's definitely way past my bedtime.

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    Default Re: Grammar: second conditional sentence in indirect speech

    Sorry my friends. I haven't understood post #2 and #1 very well.
    So sentences 2 and 4 are incorrect right?
    At the exam if we encounter those two direct sentences we should follow which one? 1 or 2 or 3 or 4?

    Sorry if I haven't understood it very well. It's my understanding problem not yours. You did well.
    Regards.

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