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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

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    The only thing lacking here is an opinion of a native speaker.
    This native speaker did not join in, because charlie's responses were correct and accurate - as they usually are.

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

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    This native speaker did not join in, because charlie's responses were correct and accurate - as they usually are.
    Oh you flatterer, you!
    Please be aware that I'm neither a native English speaker nor a teacher.

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

    Quote Originally Posted by charliedeut View Post
    Oh you flatterer, you!
    He's well known for his flatulence.

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

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    2) Being asked whether he was going to come he was pulling a face.

    I infer that 1) means that he was asked only once and 2) means he was asked a few times or repeatedly. Do you think in the line with me on that or not?
    I'm sorry to disagree with the others, but I don't find #2 natural at all, especially not the "he was pulling a face" part.
    Upon being asked, he pulled a face - this would be okay.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

    Well, I was just trying to figure out the difference between "Asked" and "being asked". Can you give me an example where these two would mean different things?

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

    I would never use "Being asked."

    I see no difference between "Asked whether he would.." and "Upon being asked whether he would..."
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

    OK. So irrespectively whether he was asked only one time or 25 times during 30 minutes you would go with "ASKED". When would "being asked" work on its own then? 1) There were 5 men being asked the 3 questions.
    2) There were 5 men asked the 3 questions.

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kotfor View Post
    OK. So irrespectively whether he was asked only one time or 25 times during 30 minutes you would go with "ASKED". When would "being asked" work on its own then? 1) There were 5 men being asked the 3 questions.
    2) There were 5 men asked the 3 questions.
    Well, you've changed the whole context by moving it from beginning of the sentence. It's a different structure. 1. seems to be the only correct answer. But all these sentences sound so unnatural that it's hard to judge. Barb is right about the original context. You need "Upon/on being asked ..."

    You ask when does "being asked" work on its own. But it's in a sentence. It doesn't work on its own, and rarely works as you've used it.
    OK, I'll give one contrived example:
    Mark: What would convince you to get married, Sandra?
    Sandra: Being asked.


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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

    Raymott hi!
    When I said "on its own" I meant without the word "upon" i.e. "upon being asked". But I did mean it to be used in a sentence, of course. I wasn't clear enough. Could you give a good example of "being asked" in a sentence?

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    Re: Different participles the same meaning?

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    Raymott hi!
    When I said "on its own" I meant without the word "upon" i.e. "upon being asked". But I did mean it to be used in a sentence, of course. I wasn't clear enough. Could you give a good example of "being asked" in a sentence?
    Of course, but writing a sentence with "being asked" in it won't solve your problem, as my dialogue above shows.
    Sandra: "Being asked would convince me." There you are. There are so many different syntactic structures in which "being asked" can be used that giving you a sentence or two with "being asked" in it won't help you with sentences that begin with "Being asked".
    "I like being asked to parties."; "Being asked to parties pleases me."; "Being asked hard questions frustrates me."
    I can't think of any case where I'd write, "Being asked, I went to the party".

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