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    Default Please close the gate/s.

    If a gate has two leaves, do we say?

    Please close the gate. OR
    Please close the gates.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    To be honest, I don't feel strongly either way.

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    I would never say that a gate has two leaves. to be honest, I am not sure what I would say, but leaves does not work for me.
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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    To be honest, I don't feel strongly either way.
    Thanks, Tdol.

    So I can either say "Please close the gate" or "Please close the gates."

    It is similar to the case of doors, I suppose.

    If there are two doors, I can either say "Please close the door" or "Please close the doors."

    Correct me if I am wrong.

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    I'd be more likely to use doors.

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    I'd be more likely to use doors.
    Thanks, Tdol.
    So, in the case of gate/gates, even if the gate has two parts, just as there can be one or two doors, I can either say "Please close the gate" OR "Please close the gates." Have I understood you correctly?

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    I would use "gate" even if there were two moving sections that closed together.

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    Quote Originally Posted by kohyoongliat View Post
    If there are two doors, I can either say "Please close the door" or "Please close the doors."
    If there really were two doors, then one might ask you to close the two doors. But since you went through one door only, obviously, even if the door had a leaf on either side, it's still one door. The same goes for any gate consisiting of two leaves or more - it's still one gate to close, unless there are more than one gate open, and you, as the last person to come, were asked to close all the gates.

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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    If there really were two doors, then one might ask you to close the two doors. But since you went through one door only, obviously, even if the door had a leaf on either side, it's still one door. The same goes for any gate consisiting of two leaves or more - it's still one gate to close, unless there are more than one gate open, and you, as the last person to come, were asked to close all the gates.
    If there is more than one gate in a single opening, we can open and close one gate or open and close both gates. It's the same if there are two doors in a single doorway. if we are closing both, then we are not closing one door.
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    Default Re: Please close the gate/s.

    That's true. I can imagine myself going into a church, say in winter, where the doorway is typically two-doored, and, in the case when one of the doors is already open, I am asked to close the two doors behind.

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