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    requesting answer

    Hello. in you want to indicate the birth order on a person in a family how do ask?

    how about the order of a president. for example, president Obama

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    Re: requesting answer

    Welcome to Using English

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadmy View Post
    Hello. If you want to indicate the birth order of a person in a family, how do you ask?

    How about the order of a president. For example, President Obama
    This question comes up at least a few times a year.
    English does not have a way to ask this question if you are determined to hear "sixteenth" instead of "sixteen". We can't say "how manieth?"

    Just say "What number president was Lincoln? What number president was Obama?" The answer will probably be "16th" or "44th" but you have not lost any information if the person says "He was number 16."

    Apparently other cultures care a LOT more about whether someone is the second son, the third daughter, etc., than most English-speaking cultures, because we don't notice that there is no easy way to ask this.

    Just say "Where do you come in your family? Are you the oldest?" And the person will fill you in on the details. "No, I'm the youngest, I have two older brothers and an older sister" or "I have an older brother and sister, and twin little sisters" or whatever.

    Please note in the future that you should use a title for your thread that is about your subject. You could have called this "Birth order." Also please note the corrections I have made to your post. Capital letters are an important part of English.
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Re: requesting answer

    Thank you for your thorough answer. It was a great help. Best regard, Ahmad

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    Re: requesting answer

    Some people have suggested whichth for this, but it hasn't been widely adopted yet.

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    Re: requesting answer

    **Not A Teacher or a Native Speaker**
    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadmy View Post
    Hello. in you want to indicate the birth order on a person in a family how do ask?

    how about the order of a president. for example, president Obama
    Chronologically, what is the position of Barack Obama as the President of the United States?

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    Re: requesting answer

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadmy View Post
    Thank you for your thorough answer. It was a great help. Best regard, Ahmad
    I have heard it as "In terms of first, second, third, which number President is Barack Obama?" It is a little clunky, but it seems to work.

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