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    Default flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Do the two words flour, flower have the same pronunciatin? How many syllables are there in the words flour/flower?
    Last edited by sitifan; 23-Dec-2013 at 10:28.
    I need native speakers' help.

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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Their pronunciations are so similar that many people pronounce them identically. However, "flour" has only one syllable and "flower" has two. I know some people who pronounce "flour" very carefully to ensure that it is one single flowing syllable (in fact, one of them says it so that it sounds a little like "flah"!). There is a syllable dictionary at www.howmanysyllables.com which you can use to check out the answers to such queries too (note that I only found that site today. The few words I checked on it were fine but I can't speak to its accuracy in all areas).
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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    Do the two words flour, flower have the same pronunciatin? If so, how many syllables is there in the word flour/flower?
    I agree with emsr. The word "flour" has one syllable and the word "flower" has two. But if one listens to NES, the pronunciations are very close to being the same.

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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    And in many cases the pronunciation is identical- many speakers do use two syllables for both despite the dictionaries' advice.

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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    I'm one of those people. The words are identical when coming from my mouth.

    There's even a joke.

    A: Men are so insentive sometimes.
    B: What do you mean! No we're not!
    A: Okay, fine. What's your wife's favorite flower?
    B: Umm... um... unbleached all-purpose, I think.

    (For the non-cooks, that's a type of flour.)
    I'm not a teacher, but I write for a living. Please don't ask me about 2nd conditionals, but I'm a safe bet for what reads well in (American) English.

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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Quote Originally Posted by sitifan View Post
    Do the two words flour, flower have the same pronunciatin? How many syllables are there in the words flour/flower?
    I think it should be "word" --> singular because flour/flower is singular. "Flour and flower" would be two subjects. I'm not sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barb_D View Post
    A: Men are so insentive sometimes.
    B: What do you mean! No we're not!
    A: Okay, fine. What's your wife's favorite flower?
    B: Umm... um... unbleached all-purpose, I think.

    (For the non-cooks, that's a type of flour.)
    The husband is sensitive. And helpful too.

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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Quote Originally Posted by beesting View Post
    I think it should be "word" --> singular because flour/flower is singular. "Flour and flower" would be two subjects. I'm not sure.
    No. There are two words given: "flour" and "flower", so the correct question is "How many syllables are there in the words ..."
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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    And in many cases the pronunciation is identical- many speakers do use two syllables for both despite the dictionaries' advice.
    I don't know many native speakers who would ever have need of looking up the words "flour" or "flower" in a dictionary. In addition, most people I know wouldn't know how to work out the pronunciation of a word by looking it up in a dictionary.
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    Default Re: flour, flower have the same pronunciatin?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    And in many cases the pronunciation is identical- many speakers do use two syllables for both despite the dictionaries' advice.
    I pronounce them both with two syllables, or near as dammit.

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