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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

    Quote Originally Posted by Rennee Duval View Post
    I do not have problems comprehending the textbook audios/videos at any level and am able to help my students learn. The problem arises when me or my students try to watch real TV shows etc. The students complain they can barely understand a word and I do not know how to help them as even I am having the same problem.

    Sometimes I watch movies with subtitles. Especially when I feel Im really struggling to understand. My intention is to at least assign the incomprehensible sounds to the words I know in the hope that next time I wont struggle that much.
    Actually, Rennee, the question was about how you, as a teacher, deal with teaching listening in your class and if you are happy with the progress.

    The main advantage of NNTs is that they can try various activities on themselves first and vice versa - they can polish their own language by just teaching it. Professionally, there are a number of strategies to apply while teaching listening. Which of them have you tried on yourself first and which were particularly helpful for your students?

    As for the subtitles, why not read/study them first and then enjoy the film?

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

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    I think Renee is worrying too much - but the fact that the question arises and the fact that s/he is concerned at all is a very good sign. I am a native English speaker teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (ESOL) here in London UK.

    In my class, sometimes I cannot understand students when they try and speak English, yet other some of the other students can understand them quite easily. That does not mean that my own English is lacking - it just means that I have not been exposed to the same accent, intonations and speech patterns that some of my students have been.

    I think maybe the same rule applies to Renee. It's just a question of familiarity with the language is really spoken (outside the classroom). It will always be difficult at first for new users of the language - but this will get much easier after a very short time of continuous exposure to particular accents and speaking patterns.

    Jibrail
    Funnily enough, my colleagues usully joke that to a certain level only they can understand/predict what their students are struggling to say - just like mothers, who are the only ones to understand their babies' babble, to a certain age of course. But, yes, I know what you mean - I don't know why it's more gruelling, if ever possible, to decipher your bad L1 than L2/3/etc.

    However, you touched upon a very interesting topic of accents and mispronunciation and mishearing/not tuning in and knowing/predicting the background of what one needs to be listening to - there might be something for Rennee to pick up to solve his problem.

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

    I am convinced that watching English language movies (with or without subtitles) at least helps with pronunciation and intonation, if not helping in other ways to learn a language or understand it better.
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    (I'm not a teacher or a native English speaker. I'm just trying to help...)

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

    At least you understand %60 or %70 of English movies but I just understand %1 of them! because I haven't worked in listening at all. But I think developing listening is dependent on the long practicing. I even have not worked in the spelling of the words because I am a self-educated person and intended to learn reading and writing in English as soon as possible. Now I sometimes just watch kid's TV programs to learn a bit listening! However, I think practicing is the best way to learn Conversational English.

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

    Sometimes I will like a pop music song for years, only to discover the forty-ninth time I hear it what the words are actually saying.

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

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    I just understand %1 of them!
    Next, you'll understand 5%, then 10%, etc.

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

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    Sometimes I will like a pop music song for years, only to discover the forty-ninth time I hear it what the words are actually saying.
    Joy Division wouldn't put their lyrics on their releases because the singer had been very disappointed when he saw the lyrics to a song he loved, as he preferred what he'd always heard to the real version.

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

    I have this problem too

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    Re: Non-native English teacher still unable to comprehend spoken English

    I think it's a very common problem among non-native teachers of English.
    If I were you, I'd basically start watching different American, or Britsh TV series with subtitles. The internet is laden with them so it won't be an issue to find a show that you think you'll enjoy.
    Also, try watching films and series with your headphones on. If you don't have any, buy some.
    When it's not a problem for you to understand anything that is being said in your native language, you may struggle to comprehend spoken English in even very similar circumstances.
    It is because the comprehension of your native language is rudimentary. You don't need to hear it perfectly because you can always guess the meaning. It happens as if automatically. However, when you're listening to spoken English, especially at first, you need to hear everything clearly in order not to face any difficulties. That's also why many non-native English speakers have enormous problems with phone conversations. There's been many studies done into the phenomenon.


    Just don't give up and keep practicing. Your listening skills are definitely going to improve.

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