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    Handwritten sounds of English

    Hello. I want to ask you. Write by hand all the vowels and consonants given current instructions.

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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Welcome to the forum, N1ssan.

    We can't write anything by hand on the forum. We have to type everything.

    What do you mean by 'given current instructions'?
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 03-Jan-2014 at 19:34.

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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover_KE View Post
    Welcome to the forum, N1ssan.

    We can't write anything by hand on the forum. We have to type everything.

    What do you mean by 'given current instructions'?
    Thanks for the answer, Rover_KE. I want to write by hand the American Phonetic Alphabet. Eg as hand-written short vowel "i". Studying transcription I saw that some of the words in the textbooks are written in different ways. For example the word chair: [ʧeə] or [ʧɛə]; earth: [ə ː θ] or [ɜ ː θ]. And so everywhere. It introduced me to the confusion. I think it depends on the modern preferences. So how write vowel ʊ by hand?
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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Quote Originally Posted by N1ssan View Post
    Thanks for the answer, Rover_KE. I want to write by hand the American Phonetic Alphabet. Eg as hand-written short vowel "i". Studying transcription I saw that some of the words in the textbooks are written in different ways. For example the word chair: [ʧeə] or [ʧɛə]; earth: [ə ː θ] or [ɜ ː θ]. And so everywhere. It introduced me to the confusion. I think it depends on the modern preferences. So how write vowel ʊ by hand?
    I doubt anyone here has been taught the proper technique of writing phonetic symbols by hand, if there is a proper technique. But I'm sure it would suffice to draw the symbol as it appears, and if it is easily distinguishable from all other symbols, then it's a /ʊ/.


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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Thanks for the answer, Raymott. I want to ask more. Can one english word transcription to be different?

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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Quote Originally Posted by N1ssan View Post
    Thanks for the answer, Raymott. I want to ask more. Can one english word transcription to be different?
    Are you asking whether there can be two or more transcriptions of the same word? Yes, there can be. If you are doing a narrow (strict) phonetic transcription of people with different accents, they would have to be different. Otherwise the system wouldn't work. What you get in a dictionary is a broad transcription - an ideal, standard way of saying the word.

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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymott View Post
    Are you asking whether there can be two or more transcriptions of the same word? Yes, there can be. If you are doing a narrow (strict) phonetic transcription of people with different accents, they would have to be different. Otherwise the system wouldn't work. What you get in a dictionary is a broad transcription - an ideal, standard way of saying the word.
    I want to learn the correct pronunciation of words. And the difference in the transcription of some words leads me to confusion, becouse in my native language same word has only one transcription. Thanks for the answer. I do not know what to choose pronunciation American or British. Hymn and him have the same transcription [hɪm]
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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Some words with different spelling have the same pronunciation (here/hear) and other words have more than one pronunciation (neither, scone). English spelling is not always consistent with the pronunciation. Where there are alternatives given, they are all correct.

    Which variant of English is likely to be more useful or easier for you?

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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Some words with different spelling have the same pronunciation (here/hear) and other words have more than one pronunciation (neither, scone). English spelling is not always consistent with the pronunciation. Where there are alternatives given, they are all correct.

    Which variant of English is likely to be more useful or easier for you?
    Thanks for the answer, Tdol. I chose the American pronunciation of words. The deciding factor for me was the sound of R. I do not understand the English pronunciation of sentences. And in a British accent letter r often not pronounced. I decided that it would be correct to learn all the American English sounds. And then I caught up with difficulties. For example the letter "O". I can not understand why in dictionaries different writing this sound: [ʤəuk], [ʤouk] and [dʒoʊk]. Next word fox: [fɑ ː ks] or [fɔks]. In one British accent pronunciation: [fɒks]. Could you write or link all modern English vowels. Their 20? Why do some transcriptions consonant r: r or a: or ɹ.

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    Re: Handwritten sounds of English

    You would need to study phonetics to understand the answers to these questions.

    If you simply want to pronounce words correctly, select one online dictionary where you can hear spoken versions of the words. Then you will know how they are pronounced. You will soon begin to understand the phonemic transcription used in that particular dictionary.
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