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    Question Phonetic chart

    Looking at the phonetic chart available on this site, has anyone noticed 1) under the vowels section the symbols for 'until' - not sure if the ' u-' in until is that indicated? And
    2) under the dipthongs 'nose' - Is there a symbol like that or is it meant to be an upside down and back to front 'e'?

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    Welcome to the forum, Wvdm.

    This symbol, /ə/, known as schwa, is the unstressed vowel that we hear in BrE in such words as until - and about, the, ration, Russia, photographer, cemetery, thorough, bureaucrat, station, invasion, patient, pigeon, gorgeous, gynaecology, forget, failure, status


    /əʊ/ represents the diphthong we hear in BrE 'nose'. In AmE, the sound is closer to /oʊ/
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 11-Feb-2014 at 15:48. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5jj View Post
    Welcome to the forum, Wvdm.

    This symbol, /ə/, known as schwa, is the unstressed vowel that we hear in BrE in such words as until - and about, the, ration, Russia, photographer, cemetery, thorough, bureaucrat, station, invasion, patient, pigeon, gorgeous, gynaecology, forget, failure, status


    /əʊ/ represents the diphthong we hear in BrE 'nose'. In AmE, the sound is closer to /oʊ/
    I am well aware of all that. So am I correct to say the symbol in the chart needs to be corrected to /əʊ /and not
    to be upside down. In 'until' it should be /ʌ /as in up for BR E?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wvdm74 View Post
    I am well aware of all that.
    Others who read this thread may not be.
    So am I correct to say the symbol in the chart needs to be corrected to /əʊ /and not to be upside down.
    Yes.
    In 'until' it should be /ʌ /as in up for BR E?
    No. It can be /ʌ /, but schwa is more common in BrE.

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