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    #1

    The Great Pyramid has been built

    1. The Great Pyramid has been built in Egypt.
    2. The Great Pyramid was built in Egypt millennia ago.


    Are they grammatical?

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    #2

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    The first one is incorrect.

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    #3

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    If someone decided to build a replica of the Great Pyramid, you would be able to say (soon after it was completed), "A replica of the Great Pyramid has been built in Egypt". It doesn't work if you are just trying to say that the Great Pyramid is located in Egypt.
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    #4

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    This page says "Use the Present Perfect to talk about actions that happened at some point in the past. It does not matter when exactly they happened".
    Since the pyramid was built in the past, why can't the present perfect be used in #1?

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    #5

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    Let's imagine:

    If someone said to you, "I/They have build the Great Pyramid in Egypt", would it sound natural to you?
    It sounds as if it(=the act of building it) had occurred/happened in the recent past, doesn't it?

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    #6

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    Let's imagine: If someone said to you, "I/They have build the Great Pyramid in Egypt"?
    tzfujimino, I can't imagine how the pyramid builders could still be alive and say it to me, unless they were immortal.

    Quote Originally Posted by tzfujimino View Post
    It sounds as if it(=the act of building it) had occurred/happened in the recent past, doesn't it?
    This page says "It does not matter when exactly they happened", so I guess it doesn't matter whether it happened in the recent past or millennia ago. Do I guess wrongly?



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    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    Those of us who have replied so far disagree with what you have read on 'this page'.

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    #8

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    Not only this page(1).
    This page(2) says "an action happened at an unspecified time before now. The exact time is not important. "
    This page(3) says "It is not important when we did it"
    This page(4) says "
    Unspecified point in the past".

    Do all of you disagree with all of them? Last time 5jj told me to be cautious about Chinese sites, does this caution apply to English sites too?

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    #9

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Wai View Post
    ...so I guess it doesn't matter whether it happened in the recent past or millennia ago. Do I guess wrongly?
    I am not a teacher.

    What do you mean by this constant use of "guess"? Do you apply the same meaning to it each time?

    Is it "think", "conclude", "suppose", "surmise"? I'm just guessing.

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    #10

    Re: The Great Pyramid has been built

    At 2 on this page http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/presentperfect.html it says this: "With Non-Continuous Verbs and non-continuous uses of Mixed Verbs, we use the Present Perfect to show that something started in the past and has continued up until now."
    As far as I'm aware the building of the Great Pyramid has not continued up until now.

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