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    #11

    Re: "Hey, I've found a sleeping bag!"

    Having it now doesn't necessarily lead only to the present perfect though. Consider the following exchange:

    Have you found your sleeping bag?
    Yes. I've found it.
    Where did you find it?
    I found it in the attic.
    When did you find it?
    I found it yesterday.

    Although it appears that the person probably does still have their sleeping bag, having found it yesterday, that only leads to the present perfect being used in the first past of this exchange. For the other two exchanges, one which gives a location and one which gives a timing, the past simple is perfectly adequate.

    However, in line (to a certain extent) with Boris' explanation involving the whereabouts of the item now, consider the following:

    Have you found your sleeping bag?
    Well, I found it but then I lost it again!
    or
    Well, I found it but now I've lost it again!

    Advice for Batman 45 - we are happy to help where we can but as we say frequently, we are not here to replace dictionaries, grammar books/websites or your own study. Even though you came to English late, there is nothing to stop you studying it formally. I suggest you get a good grammar book with exercises and work through it in your own time. When you come across something that you still can't quite get your head around, feel free to ask us, giving details of what you've studied so far, what the exercise was and why you are confused.
    Last edited by emsr2d2; 14-Apr-2014 at 09:15. Reason: Amended tense spelling - thanks Raymott
    Remember - correct capitalisation, punctuation and spacing make posts much easier to read.

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    #12

    Re: "Hey, I've found a sleeping bag!"

    Thank you so much for your tutelage!

    огромное спасибо!!!
    Last edited by Rover_KE; 13-Apr-2014 at 19:54. Reason: Deleting unnecessary quote.

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    #13

    Re: "Hey, I've found a sleeping bag!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman45 View Post
    огромное спасибо!!!
    As a future interpreter I must translate it.

    Batman45 says "thank you very much for your help".
    Please, correct all my mistakes. I should know English perfectly and if you show me my mistakes I will achieve my dream a little bit faster. A lot of thanks.

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    #14

    Re: "Hey, I've found a sleeping bag!"

    Batman, there is no need to select 'Reply with Quote' every time you respond.

    Ems's answer was indeed excellent, but we don't want to read it all again before we simply find you are thanking her for it.


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    Last edited by Rover_KE; 13-Apr-2014 at 23:19.

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    #15

    Re: "Hey, I've found a sleeping bag!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Batman45 View Post
    I don't have a grammar book and I started to learn English very late
    The answer I was hoping you'd find is that the present perfect is the appropriate tense when you are emphasizing the present. The fact that you now have a sleeping bag (because you found one) is the important point. In the context, it's not important whether you found it, bought it, or was given it. The important thing is that you now have a sleeping bag. The means by which you got it (in the past) is secondary.
    If the past was of primary importance (eg. "What did you do yesterday"; "I found a sleeping bag"), you use the past tense.

    Boris and emsr2d2 have expressed this same priniciple in different ways.

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