His or him

[tufguy]

Hi guys,

Please check.

1) He does same exercise as him or his", I think we should use "him" here because of no possesion.

2) He has same scar as his or him.

3) He has same t shirt as his or him. If we have to use "his" here, can you tell me when can we use "him" in this kind of sentences.

 

[Tdol]

You can use him.

 

[tufguy]

In all sentences? Are you sure?

 

[bhaisahab]

I'm sure.

 

[tufguy]

So can I also use "his" especialy in 3.Because there is possesion.In one of my posts in which I asked you "I have a same jacket as him or his", you guys told me "his" would be appropriate but now you are saying "him" should be used. I am getting confused. Could you please explain the reason also, so that I can understand better.

 

[lotus888]

I would use "the" in front of "same."


--lotus

 

[Raymott]

you guys told me "his" would be appropriate but now you are saying "him" should be used.

That's not true. No one has said that. You've been told that 'him' can be used here.
You can say, "My shirt is the same as his." Saying "I have the same shirt as his" is unusual.
In all these cases, you can say "I have the same shirt as he does."

 

[tufguy]

So I can say "I have same jacket as him" but I can also ise "his"? Please also explain the reason so that I can understand better.

 

[bhaisahab]

So I can say "I have the same jacket as him."

Bhai.

 

[Tdol]

In all sentences? Are you sure?

I am sure. I am also sure I won't be opening any more of your threads. I have grown weary of epic run-on sentences and selective misquotation.

 

[MikeNewYork]

Tufguy, I have told you before that people here are running out of patience with your posts and endless follow-up questions without regard for what you have been told. For your own good, I urge you to change your ways.

 

[Rover_KE]

Tufguy, you are coming close to being put into moderation, meaning that your posts will not appear on the forum until or unless a moderator approves them.



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[tufguy]

Sorry for run on sentences. But could you please explain me the reason. Why not "his" because there is possesion.

 

[tufguy]

Is it wrong to cross question if you are not understanding something?

 

[Raymott]

Is it wrong to cross question if you are not understanding something?

Not at all. You should do that. But first you should make sure that you are trying to avoid errors that you've been told about. People will tire of teaching you things that you refuse to learn.
If it weren't for the fact that 300-odd people have viewed this thread, and may be learning something, replying to you would be barely worth the effort. Do you think you are leaning anything here?

 

[tufguy]

OK I will mind it, I appologise to each and every person. Please answer my question now.

 

[MikeNewYork]

I, for one, have lost track of the question at hand. Could you please restate it?

 

[tufguy]

Somebody told me on this site that we have to say "I have same jacket as his not him". Now in this thread you are telling me that we can use "him", if there is possesion. I am getting confused.

 

[Raymott]

Somebody told me on this site that we have to say "I have same jacket as his not him". Now in this thread you are telling me that we can use "him", if there is possesion. I am getting confused.

Can you check the post where you were told this, check whether you were really told you have to say "I have the same jacket as his" in preference to "I have the same jacket as him"?
I seem to remember telling you that "I have the same jacket as he does" is also possible. I don't think you're reading what other people are actually writing. If someone says "A is better than B", you can't come back and say you were told that you had to say A, for example. I think this is what you are doing.

 

[tufguy]

No there is one more post of mine in which someone told me to use "his" because of possesion. I didn't understand your meaning. You said "in preference to", what does it mean?