Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 15

Thread: got confused

  1. #1
    Anonymous Guest

    Default got confused

    I got confused about these expressions below:

    1.Have you lost your mind ?
    Are you out of ( your ) mind ?

    same thing?

    2. I just don't understand this sentence below.

    1) You didn't think I had noticed this ?!
    2)Do you see it or don't you ? (why not " do you see it or you don't ?")
    3) Don't you ever knock on the door ! ( a woman said that to a man who didn't knock on the door before going into her room)

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    86
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    sorry , I forgot to log in before I posted the subject above.



    I appreciate your help . :)

  3. #3
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,661
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: got confused

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous

    1.Have you lost your mind ?
    Are you out of ( your ) mind ?

    same thing?
    Yes. Some might say that the first is stronger as the second doesn't carry the idea of permanence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    2. I just don't understand this sentence below.

    1) You didn't think I had noticed this ?!
    2)Do you see it or don't you ? (why not " do you see it or you don't ?")
    3) Don't you ever knock on the door ! ( a woman said that to a man who didn't knock on the door before going into her room)
    1- The person is telling the listener that they had noticed something that, I imagine, the listener was hoping had gone unnoticed.
    2-It's really two questions. you could also say 'Do you see it or not?'
    3- The woman is wondering whether the man has any manners as you should always knock on a door.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    12,971
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: got confused

    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    I get confused by the expressions below:

    1.Have you lost your mind ?
    Are you out of ( your ) mind ?

    same thing?

    2. I just don't understand this sentence below.

    1)You didn't think I had noticed this ?!
    2)Do you see it or don't you ?
    (Why not "Do you see it or you don't ?")
    3)Don't you ever knock! ( a woman said that to a man who didn't knock on the door before going into her room)
    I like what tdol wrote; so much so, in fact, I want to play too! :D

    To me, 1a and 1b mean different things:

    1a. Have you lost your mind?
    ==> Have you temporarily lost the ability to think logically/rationally?

    1b. Are you out of your mind?
    ==> Are you crazy/insane?

    To me, 2-1 You didn't think I had noticed this? sounds more natural written like this,

    2-1. You didn't think I would (I'd)notice this?
    ==> You assumed that I would not notice this, but I noticed.

    2-2. Do you see it or don't you (see it)?
    ==> Do you see it? OR Don't you see it? Which?

    Note, Do you see it or you don't is ungrammatical. "or" joins to like constituents:

    Do you see it + Do not you see it = Do you see it or don't you (see it)?

    :D

  5. #5
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,661
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Reading your answer, I think I'd like to change mine to agree on the issue of my sanity.

  6. #6
    RonBee's Avatar
    RonBee is offline Moderator
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Other
      • Native Language:
      • American English
      • Home Country:
      • United States
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Feb 2003
    Posts
    16,571
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I don't know that I would make a distinction between Have you lost your mind? and Are you out of your mind? In either case the speaker is questioning the sanity of the other. In other words, he is doubtful that the other is behaving rationally. It may be that they are used differently, but maybe they aren't.

    :)

  7. #7
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,661
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    They are both doubting, but one might be a temporary abberation, rather than the full blown craziness. Or maybe not. I might just be out of my mind today.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    86
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    thank you all very,very much for the reply !


    I've learned so much here from you! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    86
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: got confused

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    I get confused by the expressions below:

    1.Have you lost your mind ?
    Are you out of ( your ) mind ?

    same thing?

    2. I just don't understand this sentence below.

    1)You didn't think I had noticed this ?!
    2)Do you see it or don't you ?
    (Why not "Do you see it or you don't ?")
    3)Don't you ever knock! ( a woman said that to a man who didn't knock on the door before going into her room)
    I like what tdol wrote; so much so, in fact, I want to play too! :D

    To me, 1a and 1b mean different things:

    1a. Have you lost your mind?
    ==> Have you temporarily lost the ability to think logically/rationally?

    1b. Are you out of your mind?
    ==> Are you crazy/insane?

    To me, 2-1 You didn't think I had noticed this? sounds more natural written like this,

    2-1. You didn't think I would (I'd)notice this?
    ==> You assumed that I would not notice this, but I noticed.

    2-2. Do you see it or don't you (see it)?
    ==> Do you see it? OR Don't you see it? Which?

    Note, Do you see it or you don't is ungrammatical. "or" joins to like constituents:

    Do you see it + Do not you see it = Do you see it or don't you (see it)?

    :D

    thank you for correcting the grammartical mistakes! By the way, could you possibly tell me something about the usage of confused followed by a preposition (eg.:get confused about , get confused by ,and so on) ? [/i]

  10. #10
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    42,661
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I'f used for 'confused about' for facts that I wasn't sure of and 'by' for the person or process that caused me to get confused. ;-0

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. simple but confused
    By Anonymous in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 16-May-2004, 11:48
  2. still confused...
    By wendy in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-May-2004, 15:55
  3. I'm so confused...
    By wendy in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 04-May-2004, 10:26
  4. Dear Mikenewyork, I'm still confused.
    By Anonymous in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-May-2004, 19:47

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •