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    Question A sentence

    "The algorithm works in the case of both studied problems and of other mentioned problems as well."
    Is this sentence correct?

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    Default Re: A sentence

    problems studied...problems mentioned (I prefer this word order)

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    Question Re: A sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    problems studied...problems mentioned (I prefer this word order)
    Hi, tdol, and thanks. I usually prefer it too, but there are people that prefer the other order. It confuses me a lot. (In fact, in my first draft it was 'problems studied'.) Is it only the preference, ot is it a grammar rule?

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    Default Re: A sentence

    It depends on the adjective- some go before the noun more readily.

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    Question Re: A sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    It depends on the adjective- some go before the noun more readily.
    Then, a decision is not explicit, is it? Is it a matter of style then? It depends on a writer and on his vision, does it?
    I think such stuff (in general, when one has to decide which version is better, although both could be applied) is a bit difficult for non-native English speakers, since they don't have this "feeling" of the language, and they should probably base then on their memory.

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    Default Re: A sentence

    Correct me if I am wrong.
    'Studied problems' sounds awkward.
    In fact, I have not seen 'study' used as an adjective.
    It's OK to say 'analysed problems' or 'solved problems'.
    In 'problem studied', study is used as a verb which is short for 'problem which has been studied'. There is a difference.
    Last edited by tedtmc; 12-Jun-2006 at 17:35.

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    Default Re: A sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by tedtmc
    Correct me if I am wrong.
    'Studied problems' sounds awkward.
    In fact, I have not seen 'study used' as an adjective.
    It's OK to say 'analysed problems' or 'solved problems'.
    In 'problem studied', study is used as a verb which is short for 'problem which has been studied'. There is a difference.
    Then you should read 'problem that has been solved', shouldn't you?

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    Default Re: A sentence

    Yes

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    Question Re: A sentence

    Nevertheless, what should we do in case when we have to write "the approach presented" in the following sentence?
    "The presented approach to studying a problem given by Smith (1997) is..."? I don't see any possibilities of putting "presented" in a different place than it is put now. Then, it is a contrary rule than it was in our earlier discussion, isn't it?

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    Default Re: A sentence

    There you have the 'to studying...' which modies 'approach' not 'presented'

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