Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: idiom

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    3
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default idiom

    I need information of the history, meaning and application of the ff:

    "East is east n west is west n the twain will never meet" (something like this) 2nd posting

  2. #2
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    41,630
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: idiom

    It's a quotation from the writer Rudyard Kipling:
    East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet

  3. #3
    dihen is offline Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • (Afan) Oromo
      • Home Country:
      • Aaland
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    475
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: idiom

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    It's a quotation from the writer Rudyard Kipling:
    East is East and West is West and never the twain shall meet
    Why is the negative inversion missing?
    `
    Shouldn't it be? :
    "East is East and West is West and never shall the twain meet."

  4. #4
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    41,630
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: idiom

    Poetic licence.

  5. #5
    dihen is offline Member
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • Student or Learner
      • Native Language:
      • (Afan) Oromo
      • Home Country:
      • Aaland
      • Current Location:
      • United States
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    475
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: idiom

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    Poetic licence
    But doesn't it also imply a different meaning?
    `
    "...never shall the twain meet." (negative inversion)
    "...never the twain shall meet." ("never the twain (but something else) shall meet")

  6. #6
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    41,630
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Re: idiom

    The wording at the beginning makes it clear what is not meeting what.

Similar Threads

  1. More depth would improve idiom explanations
    By Mel Malinowski in forum UsingEnglish.com Content
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 19-Mar-2006, 01:30
  2. Idiom Help required
    By myem1983 in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-Feb-2006, 10:57
  3. Idiom: Raining Frogs
    By Rob in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 11-Jul-2005, 18:06
  4. Idiom
    By easy learner in forum Ask a Teacher
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 27-Jun-2005, 00:19
  5. idiom
    By Anonymous in forum English Idioms and Sayings
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 29-Jul-2004, 08:26

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Hotchalk