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    Philly is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: persuade to do / persuade into doing

    You've misinterpreted my 'regional' comment, Doc. That was intended to include possible regional differences in AmE. My input here was intended as just that: input.
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    It's interesting to know that some people do say "persuade into".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philly View Post
    You've misinterpreted my 'regional' comment, Doc. That was intended to include possible regional differences in AmE. My input here was intended as just that: input.
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    It's interesting to know that some people do say "persuade into".
    Yes, but with a slightly different meaning. Some people might think that in some cases you can use gerund or infinitive and still make the same meaning as with start to work/working. In reality gerund always implies: looking back on experience. Comapre like:
    I like to do sth (choice)
    I like doing sth (enjoyment: experience)

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    I'm not sure I catch a necessary connotation of extra effort in "persuade into": I take the "into" as metaphorically directional. Cf.

    1. I persuaded the rabbit into the hutch.

    This suggests some waving of dandelion leaves in front of the twitching pink nose; but not necessarily in any kind of sustained fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrPedantic View Post
    I'm not sure I catch a necessary connotation of extra effort in "persuade into": I take the "into" as metaphorically directional. Cf.
    1. I persuaded the rabbit into the hutch.
    This suggests some waving of dandelion leaves in front of the twitching pink nose; but not necessarily in any kind of sustained fashion.
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    With respect, I don't think that example's quite fair. The 'into' we're talking about (in the phrasal verb 'persuade into') is the first of the two in your sentence (which only has one, I know!):

    I persuaded the rabbit [into going] into the hutch.

    I think you'd only use the fuller form of that sentence if the first effort (simple chasing) failed, a second attempt (with bran) failed too, but only dandelion leaves had the desired effect.

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    Is this an entirely teacher-led thread now?
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    I don't know about teacher-led; but I do worry that we're giving the impression of knowing far too much about luring rabbits into hutches.

    Must remember to choose an example that involves spark plugs, sprockets, and brake clutch levers next time...

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