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    Default relative clause

    The snow which fell overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    How can I reduce this sentence? Does one of these work?

    A. The snow falling overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    B. The snow, falling overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    C. The snow having fallen overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    D. The snow, having fallen overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    E. Falling overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

    F. Having fallen overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trex View Post
    The snow which fell overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    How can I reduce this sentence? Does one of these work?

    A. The snow falling overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    B. The snow, falling overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    C. The snow having fallen overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    D. The snow, having fallen overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    E. Falling overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

    F. Having fallen overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

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    I'll go for A, and when could you tell us your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trex View Post
    The snow which fell overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    How can I reduce this sentence? Does one of these work?

    A. The snow falling overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    B. The snow, falling overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    C. The snow having fallen overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    D. The snow, having fallen overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    E. Falling overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

    F. Having fallen overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

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    Not all relatives can be reduced, Trex. Especially when you have a clause that is finished, "that fell overnight".

    It's Friday evening so without racking my brain too much, I'd say that we reduce "ing" clauses and some passive clauses, but, [subject to correction of course], not past tense clauses.

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    What about? Overnight snowfall caused traffic chaos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trex View Post
    The snow which fell overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    How can I reduce this sentence? Does one of these work?

    A. The snow falling overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    B. The snow, falling overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    C. The snow having fallen overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    D. The snow, having fallen overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    E. Falling overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

    F. Having fallen overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

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    Hi

    I would like to know if the choices A, B and C are grammatically incorrect or unnatural? Or are they OK?

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    Not all relatives can be reduced, Trex. Especially when you have a clause that is finished, "that fell overnight".

    It's Friday evening so without racking my brain too much, I'd say that we reduce "ing" clauses and some passive clauses, but, [subject to correction of course], not past tense clauses.
    Good points, riverkid. Mmm! I've never thought about those questions before; they are really intriguing and inspiring.

    On sencond thought, I'm also subject to correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trex View Post
    The snow which fell overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    How can I reduce this sentence? Does one of these work?

    A. The snow falling overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    B. The snow, falling overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    C. The snow having fallen overnight has caused traffic chaos.

    D. The snow, having fallen overnight, has caused traffic chaos.

    E. Falling overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

    F. Having fallen overnight, the snow has caused traffic chaos.

    Thanks.

    As you omit the relative pronoun and the part of the verb that agrees with the subject, I would go for

    'The snow falling overnight caused traffic chaos'


    Riverkid, as far as I know all relative clauses can be reduced as long as the relative pronoun is the subject of the verb, but it is not always a good idea.

    Try reducing this...

    'The man who built the house is dead.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Whitehead View Post
    'The man who built the house is dead.'
    I've one.

    [1] The man who was breathing is dead now.
    [2] The man breathing is dead now.

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