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    The Passion=Suffering

    Etymology of Passion from Merriam-Webster
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    I didn’t realize that “passion” has the meaning of suffering after reading a report by on-line news.

    Link: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/040320/12/y6p0.html
    It’s in Chinese, however I am trying to put in rudimentary English.

    The word of Passion is easily related to romantic, ardour, but in fact it also means suffering, humble, beyond the love of human beings. The story begins from a farm. After Jesus and his twelve disciples have eaten the last dinner, Peter, Jacob and John follow Jesus to the farm to pray. Jesus is resisting the temptation of the Satan, but He is betrayed by Judas and is brought back to Jerusalem for trying.
    I smile that lovers love in passion, when love is torn. One side or both sides are in suffering. Latin was the most sage people!

    P.S. Sir Ronbee, Thank you for your compliment which I am not deserving on the other thread. And MikeNewYork too

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    Here is what I found at Merriam-Webster online:
    • Main Entry: pas·sion
      Pronunciation: 'pa-sh&n
      Function: noun
      Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin passion-, passio suffering, being acted upon, from Latin pati to suffer -- more at PATIENT
      1 often capitalized a : the sufferings of Christ between the night of the Last Supper and his death b : an oratorio based on a gospel narrative of the Passion
      http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...ary&va=passion


    Interesting, huh?

    :)

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    Hi Sir Ronbee:

    From my experiences, to love a person passionately can make you in an agony!
    That is the passion! C’est la vie! (That is life!)
    When Adam by the encouragement of Eve ate the forbidden apple, human beings begins to suffer – that says from the Bible.

    I sigh and sigh and sigh for nothing!

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    The use of passion in with this meaning is largely confined to religious contexts.

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    Re: The Passion=Suffering

    Quote Originally Posted by Hong Kong Chinese
    Etymology of Passion from Merriam-Webster
    Link:
    http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...ary&va=passion

    I didn’t realize that “passion” has the meaning of suffering after reading a report by on-line news.

    Link: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/040320/12/y6p0.html
    It’s in Chinese, however I am trying to put in rudimentary English.

    The word of Passion is easily related to romantic, ardour, but in fact it also means suffering, humble, beyond the love of human beings. The story begins from a farm. After Jesus and his twelve disciples have eaten the last dinner, Peter, Jacob and John follow Jesus to the farm to pray. Jesus is resisting the temptation of the Satan, but He is betrayed by Judas and is brought back to Jerusalem for trying.
    I smile that lovers love in passion, when love is torn. One side or both sides are in suffering. Latin was the most sage people!

    P.S. Sir Ronbee, Thank you for your compliment which I am not deserving on the other thread. And MikeNewYork too
    As you have discovered, the word "passion" has several meanings. It even has one that is archaic (no longer used) that is a direct opposite of one of its current meanings. When "passion" is applied to the suffering of Jesus, it is usually capitalized.

    8 entries found for passion.
    pas·sion ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pshn)
    n.
    1. A powerful emotion, such as love, joy, hatred, or anger.

    2. Ardent love.
    3. a. Strong sexual desire; lust.
    b. The object of such love or desire.

    4. a. Boundless enthusiasm: His skills as a player don't quite match his passion for the game.
    b. The object of such enthusiasm: Soccer is her passion.
    5. An abandoned display of emotion, especially of anger: He's been known to fly into a passion without warning.
    6. Passion
    a.The sufferings of Jesus in the period following the Last Supper and including the Crucifixion, as related in the New Testament.
    b. A narrative, musical setting, or pictorial representation of Jesus's sufferings.
    7. Archaic. Martyrdom.
    8. Archaic. Passivity.


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    [Middle English, from Old French, from Medieval Latin passi, passin-, sufferings of Jesus or a martyr, from Late Latin, physical suffering, martyrdom, sinful desire, from Latin, an undergoing, from passus, past participle of pat, to suffer. See p(i)- in Indo-European Roots.]

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    Thank you MikeNewYork for your detailed explanation on ‘passion’.

    I have more English words collected relating to patir (Latin).
    Patir =>pass/pati – to suffer

    patience, patient, passible, passive, compassion, compatible

    Compatible – The new hardware is not compatible to the computer, therefore the computer user suffers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hong Kong Chinese
    Thank you MikeNewYork for your detailed explanation on ‘passion’.

    I have more English words collected relating to patir (Latin).
    Patir =>pass/pati – to suffer

    patience, patient, passible, passive, compassion, compatible

    Compatible – The new hardware is not compatible to the computer, therefore the computer user suffers.
    You're welcome. If you are interested in etymology, particularly of English words with Latin roots, you can follw the link I will post to a great web site. It allows you to download a small program with extensive information.

    http://ablemedia.com/ctcweb/showcase/roots.html

    Enjoy! :D

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    TDOL: Do we have "Roots of English" on our link list?

    http://ablemedia.com/ctcweb/showcase/roots.html

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    Hmm, I'm a little amazed why <Passion of the Christ> is able to get such a fantastic performance in Box office?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    TDOL: Do we have "Roots of English" on our link list?

    http://ablemedia.com/ctcweb/showcase/roots.html
    Thanks, Mike- we certainly will.

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