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    Could you please tell me which of the varieties (below) of the sentence "I demand that he should come." are corect?

    I demand (that) he should come.
    I demand (that) he comes.
    I demand (that) he come.
    I demand (that) he apologised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenka View Post
    Could you please tell me which of the varieties (below) of the sentence "I demand that he should come." are corect?

    I demand (that) he should come.
    I demand (that) he comes.
    I demand (that) he come.
    I demand (that) he apologised.
    The first three are fine; the fourth one fails to agree in tense. It would either be "I demand that he apologise" (present tense) or "I demanded that he apologised" (past tense).

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    In my experience, if this is from a text or is in a test, usually it is a discussion of the subjunctive and only the third sentence would be considered correct. I think I recall, though, that "should" is acceptable in BE...?

    What do you think Anglika?

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    Thanks!

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    Hi,

    1) I demand (that) he should come.
    2) I demand (that) he comes.
    3) I demand (that) he come.

    Which sounds the most natural to you?

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    Default Re: demand, suggest, propose...

    Could you please tell me which of the varieties (below) of the sentence "I demand that he should come." are corect?

    I demand (that) he should come.
    I demand (that) he comes.
    I demand (that) he come.
    I demand (that) he apologised.

    Anglika,this looks to be a subjunctive;a special kind of subjuntive with present tense which has no --s in the third person singular verbs.
    Demand,suggest,insist,recommend,propose...
    We insist that he resign.
    I propose that she be appointed.
    I demand that he come.-Is the only correct option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenka View Post
    Could you please tell me which of the varieties (below) of the sentence "I demand that he should come." are corect?

    I demand (that) he should come.
    I demand (that) he comes.
    I demand (that) he come.
    I demand (that) he apologised.
    Anglika wrote:
    The first three are fine; the fourth one fails to agree in tense. It would either be "I demand that he apologise" (present tense) or "I demanded that he apologised" (past tense).
    I agree with Anglika on the first three.

    I'm a bit puzzled over the fourth

    "I demanded that he apologised" (past tense).

    What's the purpose of the 'ed' on apologise?

    ?? I asked that he apologised. ??

    I asked that he apologise.

    ??I demanded that he went to the meeting.??

    I demanded that he go to the meeting.

    My guess is that Lenka put in "apologised" as a potential "subjunctive" form. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, Lenka.
    Last edited by riverkid; 14-Jun-2008 at 02:11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenka View Post
    Could you please tell me which of the varieties (below) of the sentence "I demand that he should come." are correct?

    I demand (that) he should come.
    I demand (that) he comes.
    I demand (that) he come.
    I demand (that) he apologised.
    Say:
    I demand that he come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    The first three are fine; the fourth one fails to agree in tense. It would either be "I demand that he apologise" (present tense) or "I demanded that he apologised" (past tense).

    I agree with Anglika on the first three.

    I'm a bit puzzled over the fourth

    "I demanded that he apologised" (past tense).

    What's the purpose of the 'ed' on apologise?

    ?? I asked that he apologised. ??

    I asked that he apologise.

    ??I demanded that he went to the meeting.??

    I demanded that he go to the meeting.

    My guess is that Lenka put in "apologised" as a potential "subjunctive" form. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, Lenka.
    The idea is that I demanded and he apologised.

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    "I demanded that he apologised" (past tense).

    Quote Originally Posted by Clark View Post
    The idea is that I demanded and he apologised.
    I can't, at this moment, see any way that the sentence above, in red, could be glossed/understood in the manner you've suggested, Clark. Now that doesn't absolutely exclude the possibility you've suggested.

    Perhaps Anglika can suggest a context where it might work.

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