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    (Situation 1)
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    I opened the door miniutes ago.
    The door was opened minutes ago.
    --> So the door is open now. (correct?)
    --> So the door is opened now. (correct?)
    =================================

    (Situaton 2)
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    When I went to the shop, the owner didn't open the shop.
    I waited for the shop to open. (correct?)
    I waited for the shop to be opened.(correct?)
    I waited for the shop to be open. (correct?)
    ===========================================

    (Situation 3)
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    When I went to the shop yesterday,
    it was not open. (correct?)
    it didn't open. (correct?)
    it was not opened. (correct?)
    =============================================

    So many questions, but open is so confusing to me.

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    I opened the door miniutes ago, so the door is open now.
    The door was opened minutes ago, so the door is [being] opened now.

    When I went to the shop, the owner didn't open the shop.
    I waited for the shop to open.
    I waited for the shop to be open. (variation on "to open")
    I waited for the shop to be opened. (for someone to open it)

    When I went to the shop yesterday,
    it was not open.
    it didn't open. (The shop didn't open ) (The door didn't open )
    it was not [being] opened.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    I opened the door miniutes ago, so the door is open now.
    The door was opened minutes ago, so the door is [being] opened now.

    When I went to the shop, the owner didn't open the shop.
    I waited for the shop to open.
    I waited for the shop to be open. (variation on "to open")
    I waited for the shop to be opened. (for someone to open it)

    When I went to the shop yesterday,
    it was not open.
    it didn't open. (The shop didn't open ) (The door didn't open )
    it was not [being] opened.

    Hope that helps.
    Thank you. I understand most of the usage of open now.
    but I have something unclear about use.

    Question :
    1) Be open is related to state and be opend is to action. Right?

    2) The store didn't open.
    The door didn't open.

    But, what is the difference between The store didn't open and The door didn't open.

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    [1] BE open expresses a state, right, whereas BE opened is passive voice.

    [2] BE expresses a state, whereas DO expresses an action:

    When I went to the shop yesterday, the shop wasn't open. <BE = state>
    When I went to the shop yesterday, the doors didn't open. <DO = action>

    Here's what I interpreted from your example:

    When I went to the shop yesterday, the shop didn't open (itself). <DO = action; awkward>

    All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    [1] BE open expresses a state, right, whereas BE opened is passive voice.

    [2] BE expresses a state, whereas DO expresses an action:

    When I went to the shop yesterday, the shop wasn't open. <BE = state>
    When I went to the shop yesterday, the doors didn't open. <DO = action>

    Here's what I interpreted from your example:

    When I went to the shop yesterday, the shop didn't open (itself). <DO = action; awkward>

    All the best.

    Wow, it's clear.
    One more question ( I hope it is the last about open)
    The door was opened.
    Does this sentence express a state or action?

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    The door was opened expresses an action. It's passive voice. That is, whatever or whoever opened the door is not important. What's important is that the door underwent an action. The passive voice is used when

    (a) you don't know who the agent is,

    Ex: The Universe was created (by ?).
    Ex: That building was erected in 1993 (by ?).
    Ex: The project was completed (by ?)

    (b) you know who the agent is but you would rather not say, because if you did say who it was that information could get you into trouble.

    Ex: The last piece of cake was eaten this morning (by me).
    Ex: My homework was done yesterday (by my mother).

    c) You know who the agent is but that information isn't important.

    Ex: The door was opened last night (by me. Everyone knows I always open it.)

    All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    The door was opened expresses an action. It's passive voice. That is, whatever or whoever opened the door is not important. What's important is that the door underwent an action. The passive voice is used when

    (a) you don't know who the agent is,

    Ex: The Universe was created (by ?).
    Ex: That building was erected in 1993 (by ?).
    Ex: The project was completed (by ?)

    (b) you know who the agent is but you would rather not say, because if you did say who it was that information could get you into trouble.

    Ex: The last piece of cake was eaten this morning (by me).
    Ex: My homework was done yesterday (by my mother).

    c) You know who the agent is but that information isn't important.

    Ex: The door was opened last night (by me. Everyone knows I always open it.)

    All the best.
    Thank you for the kind explanation.
    The examples you created were very helpful.
    I hope to see you again.

    Thanks a lot.

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    You're most welcome.

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