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    1- Thee means you in poetry.
    What are other such forms that are only used in poetry?

    I guess there is thi or something like that?




    2- In Yahoo Mail its says "Spammers Giveth, Yahoo Spamguard Takthes ways"
    What does that th signify?
    and is it pronounced as "the" or as "th" as in teeth?


    Thanks :)

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    Re: thee + taketh

    It's an old form of 'you', a familar form- thou/thee/thine are the forms. The -eth ending is pronounced (=ith), so 'giveth' has two syllables.

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    Re: thee + taketh

    You sometimes find the obsolete 3rd person singular ending (-eth or -'th, i.e. "he cometh" = "he comes") in jocular English.

    In this instance, there's a reference to a well-known phrase: "The Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away".

    In some early writers, such as Chaucer, you also find "-eth" as an ending for the imperative (e.g. "Taketh!" = "Take!"). But this is never used in jocular English.

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    Re: thee + taketh

    Note for linguistic geeks:
    [quoted from April McMahon in Mugglestone ed. Oxford History of the English Language, 2006]
    [T]he originally northern third person singular ending -(e)s spread ... to the south during the early modern English period [16th and 17th centuries]....
    She goes on to say that the -eth ending has been shown, by corpus data, to have been slower to die out following a verb with a sibilant ending - increaseth, dismisseth etc. But for much of the period both -s and -th endings could co-exist even in a single document.
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    Re: thee + taketh

    Many thanks everybody!

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