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    Still confused with how to pronounce exactly those pronounciation. (e.g: worked, played, wanted, matched, fixed....etc)
    Do you know any websites provided exercises for pronounce: /d/ /id/ /t/ /s/ /z/ /iz/,
    thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belly T View Post
    Still confused with how to pronounce exactly those pronounciation. (e.g: worked, played, wanted, matched, fixed....etc)
    Do you know any websites provided exercises for pronounce: /d/ /id/ /t/ /s/ /z/ /iz/,
    thanks in advance.
    Have we discussed this before? I can only find the thread leading to http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/pr...tml#post157220
    but I remember another one. I don't remember a site with exercises on this, though Casiopea posted a good one with sounds. I'll keep a look-out.

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    Wow, that's weird. I taught that today! It's really simple:


    I don't have the source at hand. This is not from me and I'm taking no credit whatsoever.

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    I mean, well, there must be some rules of pronouncing. Like before consonant, voiceless, etc....

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    hi,

    i don't think you had clear answers! i hope mine is?

    the pronunciation of 'ed' depends on the sound that comes before it:

    /t/ before k p s sounds (walked)

    /d/ ///// n d ///// (phoned)

    /id/ //// t///// (started)


    i hope i've helped

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    /d/ after a voiced phoneme (except /d/ itself): /b/, /d/, /g/, /v/, /l/, /r/, /z/, /m/, /n/, /g/ and some more (fricative d as the 'th' in 'bathe', d long zed as the 'j' in 'jam', velar n as 'ng' in 'sing') + all the vowels.

    /t/ after a voiceless phoneme (except /t/ itself): /p/, /t/, /k/, /f/, /s/ and some more (esh as the 'sh' in 'shock', t esh as 'ch' in 'cheer' and thorn as 'th' in 'bath').

    /Id/ after /t/ and /d/.

    Hope that helps ^^ That's at least what I've been taught.

    PS: Sorry for not using that 'phoneme-writing' tool, but I neither have enough time nor I see the phonemes in my browser.

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    Belly T, it doesn't have anything to do with consonants and vowels.

    Just look at the table I provided. I think all the information is there.

    You must understand this from a phonetic point of view.

    The way an infinitive ends with a certain sound is how you determine how to pronounce the -ed variation.

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    Fricative and aff.....?
    There's been an argurment, could you please tell me what they are?

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    Default Re: /d/ /id/ /t/

    Fricative consonant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Affricate consonant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Thanks, Noego - I'll use that summary. (I don't understand why it didn't close the discussion - it's clear and comprehensive).

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