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    Dear teachers,

    Please read the following sentence:

    The beauty of Venice, which fascinates all the visitors, consists in the style of its ancient buildings.

    Can I use 'depends on' in place of 'consists in'?

    I am looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang
    Dear teachers,

    Please read the following sentence:

    The beauty of Venice, which fascinates all the visitors, consists in the style of its ancient buildings.

    Can I use 'depends on' in place of 'consists in'?

    I am looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    I don't think I would use "depends on" there. One could use "lies in" there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang
    Dear teachers,

    Please read the following sentence:

    The beauty of Venice, which fascinates all the visitors, consists in the style of its ancient buildings.

    Can I use 'depends on' in place of 'consists in'?

    I am looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    I agree with MikeNY.

    I wouldn't either because if one used" depends on " here, it would then mean as if the beauty of Venice were only because of the style of its ancient buildings.

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    I also wouldn't use 'consists in' in the first place. I'd go with Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    I also wouldn't use 'consists in' in the first place. I'd go with Mike.
    It is unusual, but it fits one of the examples in the AHD:

    con·sist (kən-sĭst')
    intr.v., -sist·ed, -sist·ing, -sists.
    To be made up or composed: New York City consists of five boroughs. See Usage Note at include.
    To have a basis; reside or lie: The beauty of the artist's style consists in its simplicity.
    To be compatible; accord: The information consists with her account.

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    It doesn't sound very good to my BE ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    It doesn't sound very good to my BE ears.
    Only slightly better to my ears. :wink:

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    Default Could you please tell me what did you mean?

    Mike didn't say he wouldn't use 'consist in'. Did you mean 'depend on'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    I also wouldn't use 'consists in' in the first place. I'd go with Mike.

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    Default Re: depend on

    Before I asked you the question I consulted the meaning of 'depend on' in my dictionaries. One definition is 'to be determined by'. That's why I asked the question. Do you think you could explain the reasons? Is it collocation or something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiang
    Dear teachers,

    Please read the following sentence:

    The beauty of Venice, which fascinates all the visitors, consists in the style of its ancient buildings.

    Can I use 'depends on' in place of 'consists in'?

    I am looking forward to hearing from you.

    Thank you in advance.

    Jiang
    I don't think I would use "depends on" there. One could use "lies in" there.

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    Default Re: Could you please tell me what did you mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by jiang
    Mike didn't say he wouldn't use 'consist in'. Did you mean 'depend on'?
    Jiang
    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    I also wouldn't use 'consists in' in the first place. I'd go with Mike.
    I meant I'd say 'lies in' rather than consists\depends, neither of which appeal to me.

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