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    I can open the store next week. <more definite then could
    I could open the store next week. <sense of probability

    I think I can open the store next week. <---???
    I think I could open the store next week. <---???

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    I think I can open the store next week. <---???
    I think I could open the store next week. <---???

    The first is more likely without further context,IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack



    MikeNewYork:
    "Normally we would say"

    How did you know what to use? Like how did you know how to use would instead of will. why didn't you use "will"? again what dwould it mean if i use "will" instead of would" and vice versa?
    Jack, I am a native speaker. I have been speaking only English for decades. Any language becomes more natural with practice and time. You seem to move from subject to subject. It might be better to focus on one at a time.

    You have some issues with "have" and "had" and with "will" and "would". Questions are a different area, as are conditionals.

    "Will" is a modal verb. We use it with another verb to form the future tense. "Will" is used in questions and statements about the future. In addition, "will" can be used for other uses, but in almost all cases, the event has not yet happened. The following is a list of uses of "will" as an auxiliary (helping) verb:

    will2 (wĭl)
    aux.v., Past tense would (wʊd).
    Used to indicate simple futurity: They will appear later.
    Used to indicate likelihood or certainty: You will regret this.
    Used to indicate willingness: Will you help me with this package?
    Used to indicate requirement or command: You will report to me afterward.
    Used to indicate intention: I will too if I feel like it.
    Used to indicate customary or habitual action: People will talk.
    Used to indicate capacity or ability: This metal will not crack under heavy pressure.
    Used to indicate probability or expectation: That will be the messenger ringing.


    The verb "would" is another auxiliary verb and can be seen as the past tense of "will", even though this past tense might deal with events other than those that have already happened. "Would" can be more polite, less definite, more hypothetical than "will".

    would (wʊd)
    aux.v., Past tense of will2.
    Used to express desire or intent: She said she would meet us at the corner.
    Used to express a wish: Would that we had gone with you!
    Used after a statement of desire, request, or advice: I wish you would stay.
    Used to make a polite request: Would you go with me?
    Used in the main clause of a conditional statement to express a possibility or likelihood: If I had enough money, I would buy a car. We would have gone to the beach, had the weather been good. See Usage Note at if.
    Used to express presumption or expectation: That would be Steve at the door.
    Used to indicate uncertainty: He would seem to be getting better.
    Used to express repeated or habitual action in the past: Every morning we would walk in the garden.


    Start with these two lists. Study the examples and notice how they vary from those with "will". :wink:

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    Thanks, much appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    Thanks, much appreciated.
    You're welcome. :wink:

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    "I will go to the mall tommorow". <---simple futurity
    "i would go to the mall tommorow." <--presumption

    I still don't really get the uses of "will" and "would". Can't i use either one? They both works? Which one would you use and why?



    Do you think she would go to the mall with me if I donít have a car on that day?

    Do you think she will go to the mall with me if I donít have a car on that day?

    "Both sentences are correct and they have similar meanings. Both are asking for an opinion. The first asks for more a hypothetical opinion. The second asks for more of a definitie opinion. It is likely that they would result in the same answer. "

    Like that one for example, it doesn't matter if i use would or will? How can i make the most approriate use of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    "I will go to the mall tommorow". <---simple futurity
    "i would go to the mall tommorow." <--presumption

    I still don't really get the uses of "will" and "would". Can't i use either one? They both works? Which one would you use and why?
    The first is simple future.

    The second would normally be part of a conditional.

    I would go to the mall tomorrow, if got paid today.
    It might stand alone in response to:

    A: I can't find anybody who wants to go to the mall today.
    B: I would go to the mall tomorrow (if you changed your plans).



    Do you think she would go to the mall with me if I donít have a car on that day?

    Do you think she will go to the mall with me if I donít have a car on that day?

    "Both sentences are correct and they have similar meanings. Both are asking for an opinion. The first asks for more a hypothetical opinion. The second asks for more of a definitie opinion. It is likely that they would result in the same answer. "

    Like that one for example, it doesn't matter if i use would or will? How can i make the most approriate use of it?
    Those two sentences are conditionals, because of the "if" clauses. We can use either "will" or "would" in conditionals, but usually in different tenses. Check that conditionals link I gave you.

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    I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I got paid today. <--is this sentence in present tense or pass? why?

    I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I get paid today. <--is the verb "get" wrong? why? and why not? if i used got, what difference does it make?
    if i use "get" does it make the sentence mean that he has not get paid yet so he doesn't know yet. and if i use "got" does that he he cant go for sure? b/c he did not get paid?

    If it is not wrong when would i use get or got? how do i know whiche one to use?
    or should i just follow this rule "consistency of tense". like I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I got paid today. instead of I will go to the mall tomorrow, if I got paid today.




    "In other cases, the definiteness if "will" and the uncertainty of "would" will be more important."

    For the mall case, it would be less important on the use of would and will?

    Can you give me an example of the important to uses would and will?




    "For the mall case, it would be less important on the use of would and will? " <---did i say this correctly? should i use "of" instead of on? why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I got paid today. <--is this sentence in present tense or pass? why?
    It is difficult to discuss "tense" in a conditional sentence, unless you call "conditional" a tense. A conditional sentence typically has two clauses. The "if" clause is usually one tense earlier than the result clause.
    So, in that sentence, the "if" clause is in the past tense, and the result clause is in the present conditional (would + verb].

    I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I get paid today. <--is the verb "get" wrong? why? and why not? if i used got, what difference does it make?
    It isn't wrong, but it is better as "I will go to the mall tomorrow if I get paid today." That places the clauses in present tense and future conditional.

    if i use "get" does it make the sentence mean that he has not get paid yet so he doesn't know yet. and if i use "got" does that he he cant go for sure? b/c he did not get paid?
    The past tense "got" makes the statement hypothetical. The "get" makes it unknown at the present time.


    If it is not wrong when would i use get or got? how do i know whiche one to use?
    or should i just follow this rule "consistency of tense". like I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I got paid today. instead of I will go to the mall tomorrow, if I got paid today.
    Especially as a beginner, you should follow the sequence of tenses. In time you will learn when you can deviate from the norm.

    If I got paid today, I would go to the mall tomorrow.
    If I get paid today, I will go the mall tomorrow.

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    So for now, should I just follow the consitency of tense rule for sentences like "I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I get paid today. " right?

    but i would like to know the difference if i used "would" instead of "will"
    I would go to the mall tomorrow, if I get paid today.
    I will go to the mall tomorrow, if I get paid today.

    Can you also give me some examples of the important uses of would and will?




    for my sentence:
    [but i would like to know the difference if i used "would" instead of "will" ]
    Can "used" be "use" why? and why not? what difference does it make?

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