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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    yes, thanks for making it clear.
    You're very welcome.

    Conditionals are very difficult with respect to tense.

    Here are a few more examples:

    first conditional: If I slash my wrists, what will happen to me?
    [This sets up a condition in the present, and then asks what will occur in the future, if that condition is fulfilled.]

    second conditional: If I slashed my wrists, what would happen to me?
    [Second conditionals are often used for hypothetical events. That is why the past tense is used in the "if" clause. This is asking about an unreal situation, just for information.]

    third conditional: If I had slashed my wrists, what would have happened to me?
    [This sets up a condition in the past and it asks what would have happened in the past if you had fulfilled the condition in the past.]
    We always use the past perfect (had) in the "if" clause of third conditionals. We never use the present perfect (have/has).

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    Would you have gone to the movie with me, If you weren't busy?
    i would use "would" and "weren't" b/c i am talking in past tense right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    Would you have gone to the movie with me, If you weren't busy?
    i would use "would" and "weren't" b/c i am talking in past tense right?
    That is OK, but because of "have gone", the "if" clause would be better in the past perfect.

    Would you have gone to the movie with me if you hadn't (had not) been busy.

    You can get away with "weren't", but it is not technically correct for a third conditional. A third conditional is an "if" condition in the past with a result in the past.

    The second conditional (hypothetical) would be like this:

    A: I would like to take you to the movies on Friday.
    B: I'm sorry but I am busy that night.
    A: Would you go to the movies with me if you weren't busy?

    The first conditional would be like this:

    A: I would like to take you to the movies on Friday.
    B: I don't know if I am busy that night.
    A: Will/would you go to the movies with me if you aren't busy?

    In the last sentence, "will" is the proper form, but we often shift back to "would" because it is less direct/more polite. Both are acceptable.

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    Sweaty work! :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by henry
    Sweaty work! :wink:
    Phew! 8)

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    "Would you have gone to the movies with me if you weren't busy? " <--i am trying to say, i have gone to the movies and now i am asking if she would have gone too, if she isn't busy.


    "Would you go to the movies with me if you weren't busy? " <--Is this one the same as the one above in meaning? if so, why don't i need "have gone" b/c without "have gone" it sounds like i am asking her to go to the movies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    "Would you have gone to the movies with me if you weren't busy? " <--i am trying to say, i have gone to the movies and now i am asking if she would have gone too, if she isn't busy.
    No, wrong tenses. If you are at the movies and you are asking her to join you if she isn't busy:

    I am at the movies. If you aren't busy, would you care to join me?

    "Would you go to the movies with me if you weren't busy? " <--Is this one the same as the one above in meaning? if so, why don't i need "have gone" b/c without "have gone" it sounds like i am asking her to go to the movies?
    Would you go to the movies with me if you aren't busy? If you are asking her now, her business must be in the present tense. :wink:

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    sry, i am trying to say that i have already seen the movie and now i am wondering if she would have went to see it if she was not busy.

    so now i have watched the movie and the next day i said:

    "Would you have gone to the movies with me yesterday, if you weren't busy?"

    What is wrong with my tenses?

    Can you correct them for me? how would i say this?






    "Would you go to the movies with me if you weren't busy? "
    What is this question asking? is this asking about if she would have gone to the movie with me yesterday, if she had not been busy?






    Would you have gone to the movies with me if you weren't busy?

    That is OK, but because of "have gone", the "if" clause would be better in the past perfect.

    Why would it be better with past perfect if i use "have gone", isn't "have gone" present perfect? so i should use the opposite of present perfect, which is past perfect? How come i can use present perfect with past perfect?

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    "Would you have gone to the movies with me yesterday, if you weren't busy?" = she is still busy

    "Would you have gone to the movies with me yesterday, if you hadn't been busy?" = busy at the time she didn't go to the movie

    Of the two, the second is the more logical because we are interested in that time.

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    "Would you have gone to the movies with me yesterday, if you weren't busy?" = she is still busy <--she is sitll busy?i dont get it, can you explain it again please. Do you mean she was busy?

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