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    Are these sentences correct:
    1-It is not a too bad appartment.
    2-He spoke in not a too unrefined manner.

    3-It is a not too bad appartment.
    4-He spoke in a not too unrefined manner.

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    I prefer 3&4, though in 4, I'd say 'none too'. However, 'not too unrefined' is strtching lexis a bit.

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    Default Re: too III

    Quote Originally Posted by navi
    Are these sentences correct:
    1-It is not a too bad appartment.
    2-He spoke in not a too unrefined manner.

    3-It is a not too bad appartment.
    4-He spoke in a not too unrefined manner.
    I would say "no" to all.

    At least in AE, better would be:

    It is not too bad an apartment.
    He spoke in not too unrefined a manner. (I would rephrase this)

    When we have an adjective that is preceded by an adverb (or adverbs), such as "so", "too" (possibly also with "not") we move the article to the other side of the adjective.

    a bad apartment
    a very bad apartment
    such a bad apartment
    not so bad an apartment
    not too bad an apartment
    so small an apartment
    too hot an apartment

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    I'm not a fan of thesentences, but wouldn't go so far as to say they are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    I'm not a fan of thesentences, but wouldn't go so far as to say they are wrong.
    That's because you are more tolerant than I.

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    Popes shouldn't be too liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    Popes shouldn't be too liberal.
    Nor should English teachers. :wink:

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    I'm a conservative liberal.

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    Thanks TDOL and Mike.
    To tolerate or not to tolerate....

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    Default Re: too III

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Quote Originally Posted by navi
    Are these sentences correct:
    1-It is not a too bad appartment.
    2-He spoke in not a too unrefined manner.

    3-It is a not too bad appartment.
    4-He spoke in a not too unrefined manner.
    I would say "no" to all.

    At least in AE, better would be:

    It is not too bad an apartment.
    He spoke in not too unrefined a manner. (I would rephrase this)

    When we have an adjective that is preceded by an adverb (or adverbs), such as "so", "too" (possibly also with "not") we move the article to the other side of the adjective.

    a bad apartment
    a very bad apartment
    such a bad apartment
    not so bad an apartment
    not too bad an apartment
    so small an apartment
    too hot an apartment
    Hear, hear! You're absolutely right, Mike. However, despite his leniency, tdol is not too bad an English teacher. :wink:

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