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    Default Re: free or for free?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    You cannot have anything for free. You can have something free; you can have something for nothing.

    I can fly to Honolulu free.
    I can fly to Honolulu for nothing.
    I can fly to Honolulu for no payment.
    or, as Emgee says,
    I can fly to Honolulu for no charge.
    Disclaimer: I am not a teacher.
    However, I have found an entry "for free" in the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English" as well, which gives the example as follows:
    "He offered to do the work for free." May I ask what part of speech it is (an adverb or else)? Are there any differences in the ones you give?

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    Default Re: free or for free?

    Quote Originally Posted by albertino View Post
    Disclaimer: I am not a teacher.
    However, I have found an entry "for free" in the Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English" as well, which gives the example as follows:
    "He offered to do the work for free." May I ask what part of speech it is (an adverb or else)? Are there any differences in the ones you give?
    Oh! I'm surprised, so I looked for the entry if I may find one myself:
    I want to see it firsthand....
    • American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms - Cite This Source
    for free
    Without charge, gratis, as in You can't expect the doctor to treat you for free. [Colloquial; c. 1900]

    • Free On-line Dictionary of Computing - Cite This Source
    for free
    Said of a capability of a programming language or hardware equipment that is available by its design without needing cleverness to implement: "In APL, we get the matrix operations for free." "And owing to the way revisions are stored in this system, you get revision trees for free." The term usually refers to a serendipitous feature of doing things a certain way (compare big win), but it may refer to an intentional but secondary feature.

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    Default Re: free or for free?

    Perhaps it is an American use. I hear "for free" quite often. Perhaps it's substandard, but it's ubiquitous. I'm frequently surprised by the differences in the various dialects of English.

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    Default Re: free or for free?

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    You could as well say, I'll fly to Honolulu free of charge.
    There's also this one, with ellipsis:

    Ex: I'll fly free (of charge) to Honolulu.

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    Wink Re: free or for free?

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    There's also this one, with ellipsis:

    Ex: I'll fly free (of charge) to Honolulu.
    I'm sure we both, and not only we, know what end-weight is, don't we, Casiopea? In your case, to Honolulu is of more importance than the fact that someone will fly free (of charge) somewhere.
    This was the only reason why I put the phrase at the end of the sentence.
    Last edited by Casiopea; 27-Jun-2007 at 16:09.

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    Default Re: free or for free?

    Engee30, first, let me apologize. I edited your post by mistake. I clicked "edit" instead of "quote". Sorry. I couldn't recover the last part of your post--which I deleted by mistake.

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    Nice addition!

    My intention was to show that the poster's sentence I'll fly free to Honolulu is indeed English.

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    Exclamation Re: free or for free?

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    Engee30, first, let me apologize. I edited your post by mistake. I clicked "edit" instead of "quote". Sorry. I couldn't recover the last part of your post--which I deleted by mistake.
    Hey, I don't have any button like Edit, except for the one that is present beneath, or maybe within, the posts that I am the author of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea View Post
    Nice addition!

    My intention was to show that the poster's sentence I'll fly free to Honolulu is indeed English.
    True.

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