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    Teachers,

    Is it necessary that the teacher in ESL be a native? For I found one institution which offers ESL, but the teacher isn't a native. I would like to enroll for it's just near us, no sweat. But I'm doubtful of the teacher on how much I could learn from her. I haven't talked to her yet, I hope to take pay them a visit tomorrow.

    Here a day of two hours would cost me a day's work as well, 20 sessions, 1 hr/session, two sessions per day, 2-3 meetings/wk. What do you think, would I go for it?

    What would I expect from learning ESL? A certificate? How far would they further my English?

    * Teachers, how would you rate my English skills based here on my writing, I type as I say it. Am I a beginner(I think not), Intermediate, or advanced?

    And also I saw in a bookstore a packages, a book and 3CDs, for being fluent in English and ESL. What could you say about it? It's worth 3days work, what do you think, would I get it?

    Thanks a multitude teachers!!!

    All the best!!!

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    It really depends on how good she is; there are plenty of good non-native speakers. You're an advanced user of English, so it might benefit you to take one of the advanced exams if a certificate would help you, say, get a different job. I honestly think that you might have a lower opinion of your English than we do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    Teachers,

    Is it necessary that the teacher in ESL be a native?
    Richard is right, of course. A native speaker does have an advantage, of course, because he or she grew up learning the language. For an NES* things like understanding idioms (for example) are not particularly difficult. On the other hand, ESL learners study things that I never studied (like conditionals).

    (Say: "Is it necessary that a teacher of ESL (or ESL teacher) be a native?)



    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    For I found one institution which offers ESL, but the teacher isn't a native. I would like to enroll for it's just near us, no sweat. But I'm doubtful of the teacher on how much I could learn from her. I haven't talked to her yet, I hope to take pay them a visit tomorrow.
    I found one institution which offers ESL, but the teacher isn't a native. I would like to enroll for it's near us, no sweat! But I doubt that I could learb much from the teacher. I haven't talked to her yet. I plan to visit the school tomorrow.
    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    Here a day of two hours would cost me a day's work as well, 20 sessions, 1 hr/session, two sessions per day, 2-3 meetings/wk. What do you think, would I go for it?
    I am not certain what you mean by "a day of two hours". By "a day's work" do you mean "a day's pay" or that you would have to take off work?

    (Say: "Should I go for it?" or "Should I do it?")

    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    What would I expect from learning ESL? A certificate? How far would they further my English?
    What can I expect from taking a class in ESL? A certificate? How far would they further my English?
    Your guess is as good as mine on that one. Maybe better.



    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    * Teachers, how would you rate my English skills based here on my writing, I type as I say it. Am I a beginner(I think not), Intermediate, or advanced?
    Teachers, how would you rate my English skills based on my postings here?
    I would say you are an advanced learner. What do you mean by "I type as I say it"?



    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    And also I saw in a bookstore a packages, a book and 3CDs, for being fluent in English and ESL. What could you say about it? It's worth 3days work, what do you think, would I get it?
    I saw in a bookstore a package--a book and three CDs that could supposedly teach me how to be fluent in English. What do you think? Should I get it?
    What do you mean by "It's worth three day's work"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post

    I am not certain what you mean by "a day of two hours". By "a day's work" do you mean "a day's pay" or that you would have to take off work?
    You're right! That's what I mean, a day's pay, thanks. And it's two sessions in a day.


    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    Teachers, how would you rate my English skills based on my postings here?
    I would say you are an advanced learner. What do you mean by "I type as I say it"?

    I'm not even sure of it! I mean I type the words as I say it here and that I do only a little editting...

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    I saw in a bookstore a package--a book and three CDs that could supposedly teach me how to be fluent in English. What do you think? Should I get it?
    What do you mean by "It's worth three day's work"?
    It's worth a three day's pay.
    ~R


    Thanks a lot Ron, should I go for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    It really depends on how good she is; there are plenty of good non-native speakers. You're an advanced user of English, so it might benefit you to take one of the advanced exams if a certificate would help you, say, get a different job. I honestly think that you might have a lower opinion of your English than we do.
    Thanks you! But which one do you think should I do first, get the cd package or study ESL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post


    It's worth a three day's pay.
    Say It would cost three days' pay. Whether it would be worth it or not is another question altogether.


    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    Thanks a lot Ron, should I go for it?
    It's hard for me to say. You might be too advanced for this particular class. In that case it would probably be a waste of time and money. On the other hand, if it will help you get a certifiicate that you need (for a job, for example) then it might be worth it. If you get credit for what you know already maybe they won't charge as much.

    How well do you do with the quizzes on site?



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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    It's hard for me to say. You might be too advanced for this particular class. In that case it would probably be a waste of time and money. On the other hand, if it will help you get a certifiicate that you need (for a job, for example) then it might be worth it. If you get credit for what you know already maybe they won't charge as much.

    How well do you do with the quizzes on site?



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    I guess I'm doing well on some and not on others. I know I have problems with prepositions and I need to learn idioms and phrasal verbs too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    Thanks you! But which one do you think should I do first, get the cd package or study ESL?
    I'd go to the school, and see what level they evaluate you as and what courses/exams they offer at advanced level.

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    My apologies for not catching this sooner.

    Thanks! --OK
    Thank you! --OK
    Thanks you!

    (Thank likes you, but you doesn't like thanks.)
    ~R

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    My apologies for not catching this sooner.

    Thanks! --OK
    Thank you! --OK
    Thanks you!

    (Thank likes you, but you doesn't like thanks.)
    ~R
    Oh sorry, a typo! -- thanks a multitude!

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