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    Can you help me about this three words "Although, Despite & However"? I just find it really difficult to distinguish each from the other...

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    Default Re: Although, Despite & However

    However- joins two sentences It was hard. However, he managed to do it.
    Although- joins two clauses Although it was hard, he managed to do it.
    Despite/In spite of- join a noun phrase to the clause Despite the difficulty, he managed to do it.

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    Default Re: Although, Despite & However

    Tdol forgot to say that despite/inspite of can be followed by an -ing form as in:
    Despite being tired, I have to keep working.

    I think he will not mind me adding this detail he forgot about.
    P.s: I'm not a teacher.

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    Although, Despite & However

    Is the sentence correct? If it is correct, answer 'True' and if it is incorrect, answer 'False'.

    1. In spite of exhausted, I continued working.
    2. I thought it was OK, though many found it rather difficult.
    3. I did it, though I didn't enjoy it.
    4. Despite the fact that it was very expensive, I bought it.
    5. Despite I tried my best, I failed.
    6. Although I tried my best, I was unsuccessful.
    7. However hard I tried, I just couldn't manage it.
    8. Though exhausted, I continued working.
    9. In spite that no one helped me, I still managed to do it.
    10. Despite of being easy, many failed the test.
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    I usually fail on this test, I just can't get it! Can you help me with each sentence. If true or false and why???

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    Default Re: Although, Despite & However

    Quote Originally Posted by blouen View Post
    Although, Despite & However

    Is the sentence correct? If it is correct, answer 'True' and if it is incorrect, answer 'False'.

    1. In spite of exhausted, I continued working. You are in the state of being exhausted
    2. I thought it was OK, though many found it rather difficult.
    3. I did it, though I didn't enjoy it.
    4. Despite the fact that it was very expensive, I bought it.
    5. Despite I tried my best, I failed. Despite trying...
    6. Although I tried my best, I was unsuccessful.
    7. However hard I tried, I just couldn't manage it.
    8. Though exhausted, I continued working.
    9. In spite that no one helped me, I still managed to do it. Although no-one... OR In spite of the fact that no-one...
    10. Despite of being easy, many failed the test. Despite being...
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    I usually fail on this test, I just can't get it! Can you help me with each sentence. If true or false and why???
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    Default Re: Although, Despite & However

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    However- joins two sentences It was hard. However, he managed to do it.
    Although- joins two clauses Although it was hard, he managed to do it.
    Despite/In spite of- join a noun phrase to the clause Despite the difficulty, he managed to do it.
    How do these apply to the answers given by Anglika?
    - Please explain to me clearly, I find it difficult still!!!


    * I checked the test and all the answer were correct, great!

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    Default Re: Although, Despite & However

    Wouldn't it be better better if you try to explain them or your thinking behind them? Take the first as an example- 'exhausted' is an adjective, so where's the noun for a noun phrase? 'In spite of my exhaustion'; now we have a noun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    However- joins two sentences It was hard. However, he managed to do it.
    Although- joins two clauses Although it was hard, he managed to do it.
    Despite/In spite of- join a noun phrase to the clause Despite the difficulty, he managed to do it.

    1. In spite of exhausted, I continued working.
    - ok, as you said, Tdol, there's no noun for the noun phrase.

    2. I thought it was OK, though many found it rather difficult.
    - This one is good for "though" joined here two clauses.

    3. I did it, though I didn't enjoy it.
    - Here, wouldn't "I did it" be counted as a sentence for, seperately, it can be one, right? But in this sentence it was counted as a clause.

    4. Despite the fact that it was very expensive, I bought it.
    - Where's the noun phrase here? I'm not good at trouble-shooting sentences, really! Where's the noun?

    5. Despite I tried my best, I failed.
    - Anglika has an answer here that it should be "Despite trying".
    - Could I say it as: Although I tried my best, I failed.
    I failed, though I tried my best.

    6. Although I tried my best, I was unsuccessful.
    - Oh, same as number 5, I guess!!!

    7. However hard I tried, I just couldn't manage it.
    - If however is used to join sentences, please, where are the sentences here? Is "hard I tried" a sentence?

    8. Though exhausted, I continued working.
    - How about this? exhausted is just an adjective and not a clause, so why can this right?

    9. In spite that no one helped me, I still managed to do it.
    - "Although no one helped me" would be best here for me...
    - Anglika answered this "Inspite of the face that no one.."- How do this function as a noun phrase?

    10. Despite of being easy, many failed the test.
    - Here, despite being busy is my answer!

    *** Perhaps I have a problem distiguishing a noun phrase, a clause, and a sentence in these given examples.
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    Default Re: Although, Despite & However

    2. I thought it was OK, though many found it rather difficult.
    - This one is good for "though" joined here two clauses.

    3. I did it, though I didn't enjoy it.
    - Here, wouldn't "I did it" be counted as a sentence for, seperately, it can be one, right? But in this sentence it was counted as a clause.
    It could be an individual sentence, but to use 'however', we would either have to add a full-stop or a semi-colon; don't use 'however' after a comma.

    4. Despite the fact that it was very expensive, I bought it.
    - Where's the noun phrase here? I'm not good at trouble-shooting sentences, really! Where's the noun?
    When we have 'the fact that' after 'depspite/in spite of' we can use them the same way as 'although/though'. You're right; if we had 'despite' on its own, it would need to be followed by a noun like 'the expense'

    5. Despite I tried my best, I failed.
    - Anglika has an answer here that it should be "Despite trying".
    - Could I say it as: Although I tried my best, I failed.
    I failed, though I tried my best.
    Yes, you could

    6. Although I tried my best, I was unsuccessful.
    - Oh, same as number 5, I guess!!!

    7. However hard I tried, I just couldn't manage it.
    - If however is used to join sentences, please, where are the sentences here? Is "hard I tried" a sentence?
    Remember, examiners try to trick you; 'however' here is being used in a different way; not to provide a contrast but to modify 'hard', with the meaning of 'no matter how hard'.

    8. Though exhausted, I continued working.
    - How about this? exhausted is just an adjective and not a clause, so why can this right?
    'Though exhausted' is ellipsis for 'Though I was exhausted'

    9. In spite that no one helped me, I still managed to do it.
    - "Although no one helped me" would be best here for me...
    - Anglika answered this "In spite of the fact that no one.."- How do this function as a noun phrase?
    See #4

    10. Despite of being easy, many failed the test.
    - Here, despite being busy is my answer!

    (but put a comma after 'busy')

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdol View Post
    2. I thought it was OK, though many found it rather difficult.
    - This one is good for "though" joined here two clauses.

    3. I did it, though I didn't enjoy it.
    - Here, wouldn't "I did it" be counted as a sentence for, seperately, it can be one, right? But in this sentence it was counted as a clause.
    It could be an individual sentence, but to use 'however', we would either have to add a full-stop or a semi-colon; don't use 'however' after a comma.

    4. Despite the fact that it was very expensive, I bought it.
    - Where's the noun phrase here? I'm not good at trouble-shooting sentences, really! Where's the noun?
    When we have 'the fact that' after 'depspite/in spite of' we can use them the same way as 'although/though'. You're right; if we had 'despite' on its own, it would need to be followed by a noun like 'the expense'

    5. Despite I tried my best, I failed.
    - Anglika has an answer here that it should be "Despite trying".
    - Could I say it as: Although I tried my best, I failed.
    I failed, though I tried my best.
    Yes, you could

    6. Although I tried my best, I was unsuccessful.
    - Oh, same as number 5, I guess!!!

    7. However hard I tried, I just couldn't manage it.
    - If however is used to join sentences, please, where are the sentences here? Is "hard I tried" a sentence?
    Remember, examiners try to trick you; 'however' here is being used in a different way; not to provide a contrast but to modify 'hard', with the meaning of 'no matter how hard'.

    8. Though exhausted, I continued working.
    - How about this? exhausted is just an adjective and not a clause, so why can this right?
    'Though exhausted' is ellipsis for 'Though I was exhausted'

    9. In spite that no one helped me, I still managed to do it.
    - "Although no one helped me" would be best here for me...
    - Anglika answered this "In spite of the fact that no one.."- How do this function as a noun phrase?
    See #4

    10. Despite of being easy, many failed the test.
    - Here, despite being busy is my answer!

    (but put a comma after 'busy')
    Thanks a lot Tdol!!! You were very helpful...

    I'll make sure I won't forget this lesson we had,

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