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    The child is ___of the man..?

    The child is ____of the man.
    A: father B:a father C:the father D:fathers
    This sentence sounds weird to me...
    is this a saying or proverb..?
    i choose C is it correct..?

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gёггч View Post
    The child is ____of the man.
    A: father B:a father C:the father D:fathers
    This sentence sounds weird to me...
    is this a saying or proverb..?
    i choose C is it correct..?
    This is one of the lines in a poem by Wordsworth and became proverbial. It means the child is the basis (father) of the man as in psychology. Childhood plays a decisive role in shaping the adult in us.

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee View Post
    You mean C is the right one..?
    But the answer should be A(says my reference book)

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Heyyy!
    i've just found this......
    "My Heart Leaps Up"
    by: William Wordsworth

    MY heart leaps up when I behold
    A rainbow in the sky:
    So was it when my life began,
    So is it now I am a man,
    So be it when I shall grow old
    Or let me die!
    The child is father of the man:
    And I could wish my days to be
    Bound each to each by natural piety.

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gёггч View Post
    The child is ____of the man.
    A: father B:a father C:the father D:fathers
    This sentence sounds weird to me...
    is this a saying or proverb..?
    i choose C is it correct..?
    As far as I know the phrase should sound : Child is father to the man

    Child Is Father to the Man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Quote Originally Posted by teia_petrescu View Post
    As far as I know the phrase should sound : Child is father to the man

    Child Is Father to the Man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I've seen both "of" and "to" in print (but never "the father - the line is an Iambic tetrameter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , so "the" doesn't fit:
    The child/is fa/-ther to/the man
    ).

    If you're talking about current spoken English though - as opposed to what was written by a Romantic poet two centuries ago) - "the father" strikes me as better.

    As to the of/to variation, perhaps this is an instance of Wordsworth's tendency to edit his early poems after he had become 'a pillar of the Establishment'.

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gёггч View Post
    The child is ____of the man.
    A: father B:a father C:the father D:fathers
    Since it is that way in the original, I would choose A.
    532. Rainbow. William Wordsworth. The Oxford Book of English Verse

    Quote Originally Posted by Gёггч View Post
    This sentence sounds weird to me...
    is this a saying or proverb..?
    i choose C is it correct..?

    Say:
    The sentence sounds weird to me. Is it a saying or proverb? I chose C. Is it correct?
    In the original it is A, but when it is quoted (misquoted) C is often used.


    Again, since the original omits "the", I would choose A.

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobK View Post
    I've seen both "of" and "to" in print (but never "the father - the line is an Iambic tetrameter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia , so "the" doesn't fit:
    The child/is fa/-ther to/the man
    ).

    If you're talking about current spoken English though - as opposed to what was written by a Romantic poet two centuries ago) - "the father" strikes me as better.

    As to the of/to variation, perhaps this is an instance of Wordsworth's tendency to edit his early poems after he had become 'a pillar of the Establishment'.

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    Hi Bob

    Just a question :What does "Establishment " mean here?
    Thank you

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    Re: The child is ___of the man..?

    Wordsworth wrote much of his best poetry (at least that's what I think) when he was a young man, full of enthusiasm, even revolutionary zeal (his publication of Lyrical Ballads was a gesture of defiance to the poetical beliefs of the time, and he was a supporter of the French Revolution).

    When he grew older he became less fiery and more careful. I believe he was Poet Laureate (check in Wikipedia) - a sort of official rhyme-writer, doing what the Monarch required. In religion too he 'toed the line' (became a conformist). Whereas in his youth he believed in a strange sort of personal spirituality, in later years he became a staunch Church of England Christian.

    Usually the idiom 'pillar of the establishment' just means 'reliable supporter of the social and political status quo'; but I gave 'establishment' a capital E as a reference to the Established Church - the Church of England.

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