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    Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim is offline Senior Member
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    I mean you can start doing sth or start by doing sth depending upon the meaning and emphasis. Start by doing sth suggests: you want to begin with sth ie you make a choice whereas start doing sth you simply begin.
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    Default Re: Start (by) asking

    I think I would agree with you, Dr J., e.g.

    1. It's about time you did some work round here. You can start by clearing out the cellar.

    — implication: "clearing out the cellar" is only the first of several jobs.

    2. You can start clearing out the cellar.

    — we do not know if other jobs will follow the cellar clearance.

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    Default Re: Start (by) asking

    Thanks MrP just one little preposition and the meaning changes. This is fascinating about English. You have to be prepared for surprises.

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    Default Re: Start (by) asking

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim View Post
    Thanks MrP just one little preposition and the meaning changes.
    True. Here's the other example (with omitted by that changes the writer's intended meaning), "May I start asking: What ... " (See post #3 here).

    a) start asking
    => inceptive: (just) about to do something

    b) start by asking
    => start with / begin with

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    Default Re: Start (by) asking

    Thanks Casiopea. The inceptive idea (very good explanation) is what I thought of in the previous thread. You really never stop learning. This is English looks easy but on second thoughts you find it full of pitfalls. Btw I couldn't PM you.
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    Default Re: Start (by) asking

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Jamshid Ibrahim View Post
    This is English looks easy but on second thoughts you find it full of pitfalls.
    You ask good questions.


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    Btw I couldn't PM you.
    I'm on vacation.

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