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    Cool Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Hi,

    Could you tell me the meaning of: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms?

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    Default Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Mr - Mister, a male, Mr Smith, Mr Jackson
    Mrs - married female, Mrs Smith, or Mr X's wife, contraction of 'mistress', mind pronunciation [mɪsɪz]

    Miss - unmarried woman, [mɪs]
    Ms - shows no reference to a woman's marital status, as with 'Mr'. pronounced [mɪz] or [məz])

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    Cool Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Szymon View Post
    Mr - Mister, a male, Mr Smith, Mr Jackson
    Mrs - married female, Mrs Smith, or Mr X's wife, contraction of 'mistress', mind pronunciation [mɪsɪz]

    Miss - unmarried woman, [mɪs]
    Ms - shows no reference to a woman's marital status, as with 'Mr'. pronounced [mɪz] or [məz])
    Thank you

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    Default Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    This may be a little off track, but are there any legal requirements in using these terms?

    Does a married woman have to use Mrs, or can she legally use Miss?

    Or, a more extreme case, can a transsexual person simply start using a new salutation legally?



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    Default Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Does a married woman have to use Mrs, or can she legally use Miss?
    I dont believe that the law cares at all about titles, unless that is the cause of the dispute. She would be tried as Jane Doe, if she calls herself Mrs Doe, Dr Doe, or Her Royal Highness Lady Doe of Windsor, it is of no import.

    Many widows still use Mrs although they are no longer married.

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    Cool Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Quote Originally Posted by thod00 View Post
    I dont believe that the law cares at all about titles, unless that is the cause of the dispute. She would be tried as Jane Doe, if she calls herself Mrs Doe, Dr Doe, or Her Royal Highness Lady Doe of Windsor, it is of no import.

    Many widows still use Mrs although they are no longer married.
    And a widow should be called "miss"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bieasy View Post
    And a widow should be called "miss"?

    It depends upon the particular person. Some widows will continue to refer to themselves as "Mrs. John Doe" even 30 years after the passing of Mr. Doe. Others will revert to "Miss (or Ms.) Jane Roe" only months after Mr. Doe has passed.

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    Default Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouisch View Post
    It depends upon the particular person. Some widows will continue to refer to themselves as "Mrs. John Doe" even 30 years after the passing of Mr. Doe. Others will revert to "Miss (or Ms.) Jane Roe" only months after Mr. Doe has passed.

    Just as an aside, in the province of Quebec, Canada, women MUST retain their birth name. They are now not allowed to use their husband's last name in any legal sense. It was and still is very difficult for women who were used to signing their last name as the one they aquired through marriage, to revert to a name that they might not have used for 40 years!

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    Default Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    It is all rather confusing, isn't it? Apart from the Provnce of Quebec, there doesn't seem to be any legal basis for which courtesy titles people are able to adopt.

    So that leaves me wondering why a particular insurance company is refusing to change mine...I was hoping to twist their corporate arm into seeing sense, backed up with the letter of the law.

    Oh well, nothing is ever simple, is it?


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    Default Re: Mr, Mrs, Miss, Ms = ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pollik View Post
    This may be a little off track, but are there any legal requirements in using these terms?

    Does a married woman have to use Mrs, or can she legally use Miss?

    Or, a more extreme case, can a transsexual person simply start using a new salutation legally?



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    There is no legal requirement, It is largely a social nicety, and the problem of the transexual is still under discussion. If she/he calls themselves, "Miss" or "Ms", noone is likely to challenge the use.
    Last edited by Anglika; 23-Feb-2009 at 19:48.

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