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    Says who?

    I am a bit :? with these phrases.


    Who says I have to retire at 60?

    A:Says who?
    B:Says me, that's who.

    My question:
    (1)Do both phrases share similiar meanings that indicate suspicion to a certain statement or opinion?

    (2)Who says + Subject + verb, can "Who says" stand along?
    "Says who" is an independent senetnce, can stand along.

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    The phrases share similar meanings, but "Says who?" stands alone, but "Who says" does not. In either case it is a kind of challenge. "Says who?" could be restated as "Who dares to say that?"

    • A: You have to retire at 60.
      B: Says who?


    • A: You have to retire at 60.
      B: Who says I have to?


    :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee
    The phrases share similar meanings, but "Says who?" stands alone, but "Who says" does not. In either case it is a kind of challenge. "Says who?" could be restated as "Who dares to say that?"

    • A: You have to retire at 60.
      B: Says who?


    • A: You have to retire at 60.
      B: Who says I have to?


    :)
    Ron, you are just wonderful!

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    Re: Says who?

    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    I am a bit :? with these phrases.


    Who says I have to retire at 60?

    A:Says who?
    B:Says me, that's who.

    My question:
    (1)Do both phrases share similiar meanings that indicate suspicion to a certain statement or opinion?

    (2)Who says + Subject + verb, can "Who says" stand along?
    "Says who" is an independent senetnce, can stand along.
    I wouldn't say "suspicion". The phrase is argumentative. It questions the validity, propriety, or accuracy of a statement.

    Who says or says who can stand alone. Both have a subject and a verb.


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    Re: Says who?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Who says or says who can stand alone. Both have a subject and a verb.
    A: Says who?
    B: MNY.
    A: But the poet said "who says" cannot stand alone.
    B: Who says!

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    Re: Says who?

    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Who says or says who can stand alone. Both have a subject and a verb.
    A: Says who?
    B: MNY.
    A: But the poet said "who says" cannot stand alone.
    B: Who says!
    Well, "says who" is more natural as a question because it is inverted. The other version with a question mark is also acceptable, IMO. Neither of them can be called formal language.


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    Re: Says who?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Who says or says who can stand alone. Both have a subject and a verb.
    A: Says who?
    B: MNY.
    A: But the poet said "who says" cannot stand alone.
    B: Who says!
    Well, "says who" is more natural as a question because it is inverted. The other version with a question mark is also acceptable, IMO. Neither of them can be called formal language.

    Yes, Sir. <salute>


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    Re: Says who?

    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeNewYork
    Who says or says who can stand alone. Both have a subject and a verb.
    A: Says who?
    B: MNY.
    A: But the poet said "who says" cannot stand alone.
    B: Who says!
    Well, "says who" is more natural as a question because it is inverted. The other version with a question mark is also acceptable, IMO. Neither of them can be called formal language.

    Yes, Sir. <salute>


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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee
    The phrases share similar meanings, but "Says who?" stands alone, but "Who says" does not. In either case it is a kind of challenge. "Says who?" could be restated as "Who dares to say that?"

    • A: You have to retire at 60.
      B: Says who?


    • A: You have to retire at 60.
      B: Who says I have to?


    :)
    Ron, you are just wonderful!
    Thanks.


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    Mike might be technically right, but I have never heard of anybody saying "Who says?" althought I suppose it is possible.

    :)

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