Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    211
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default Remoteness and Immediacy

    Does anyone know about Lewis's The English Verb?

    I want to learn more about remoteness and immediacy.
    What exactly are these things?

    Thank you in advance.

    Shun

  2. #2
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    41,590
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    The 'remote' form is a term used by some instead of past tense. The reason is that it describes the function of this form of the verb better, as they see it; it allows for distance in time, or the other uses of the past- the unlikely (hence remote) future and politeness (social distance or remoteness).

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    211
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Thank you very much Tdol,

    Quote Originally Posted by You
    The 'remote' form is a term used by some instead of past tense. The reason is that it describes the function of this form of the verb better, as they see it; it allows for distance in time, or the other uses of the past- the unlikely (hence remote) future and politeness (social distance or remoteness).
    Honestly, I don't know much about this theory. How can we use a tense to tell a distance in time? Can you give examples for illustration?

    Shun

  4. #4
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    41,590
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    If it is in the past, then distance is automatic and not so important. If it was before something else, then we use the past perfect, if not the past. In the future, we have the likely and the less likely,which is the distance of probability.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    211
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by tdol
    If it is in the past, then distance is automatic and not so important. If it was before something else, then we use the past perfect, if not the past. In the future, we have the likely and the less likely,which is the distance of probability.
    Thank you, Tdol. I was looking for examples explaining remoteness.
    As you say it is "not so important", I had better forget it. Thank you for your help.

    Shun

  6. #6
    Tdol is offline Editor, UsingEnglish.com
    • Member Info
      • Member Type:
      • English Teacher
      • Native Language:
      • British English
      • Home Country:
      • UK
      • Current Location:
      • Philippines
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    41,590
    Post Thanks / Like

    Default

    I didn't mean that. What I meant was that events in the past are usually remote because we cannot go back. However, events in the future can seem remote if they are unlikely or closer if they are likley, which would be reflected in the tenses (will- present- for likely, would-past- for remote futures).

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Hotchalk