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    albertino is offline Senior Member
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    Default Re: Is help+in grammatical?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawoodusmani View Post
    Hi !
    Question: Can we use help+in in any sentence? Is it grammatical or standard English?
    Are "Ann helped me in preparing the dinner." " My brother helps me in my studies." Teacher should help new-comers in getting along with other students." right?
    IMO, there is no difference in:
    (i)Ann helped me in/with preparing the dinner/Teacher should help newcomers in getting along with other students.
    (Using a preposition + gerund phrase as its object)

    (ii)Ann helped me (to) prepare the dinner/Teacher should help newcomers (to) get along with other students.
    (Using a to-infinitive or bare infinitive phrase as its object)

    (iii)My brother helps me in/with my studies.
    (Using a prepositional phrase as its object)

    All are grammatically correct.

    (Not a teacher)

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    Default Re: Is help+in grammatical?

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    There's a little difference between help in something and help with something.

    The new system has helped in fighting crime. (the new system was not the only measure to fight crime; it was a contributory factor)

    The new system has helped with fighting crime. (this time the new system has done the entire job)

    The difference is too subtle that it seems to be the same on the face of it.

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    Wink Re: Is help+in grammatical?

    Quote Originally Posted by albertino View Post
    The difference is too subtle that it seems to be the same on the face of it.
    I guess you're right.

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    Default Re: Is help+in grammatical?

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    There's a little difference between help in something and help with something.

    The new system has helped in fighting crime. (the new system was not the only measure to fight crime; it was a contributory factor)

    The new system has helped with fighting crime. (this time the new system has done the entire job)

    Thanks engee30. I believe the difference as you explained lies in the semantic difference of the two prepositions. With is all-inclusive whereas in is contributory. Very subtle indeed. There is always sth new to learn.

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    Default Re: Is help+in grammatical?

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    There's a little difference between help in something and help with something.

    The new system has helped in fighting crime. (the new system was not the only measure to fight crime; it was a contributory factor)

    The new system has helped with fighting crime. (this time the new system has done the entire job)

    Thanks engee30. I believe the difference lies in the semantic difference of the two prepositions. With is all-inclusive whereas in is contributory. Very subtle indeed. There is always sth new to learn.

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    Smile Re: Is help+in grammatical?

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    There's a little difference between help in something and help with something.

    The new system has helped in fighting crime. (the new system was not the only measure to fight crime; it was a contributory factor)

    The new system has helped with fighting crime. (this time the new system has done the entire job)

    Thanks to all of you. Now I'm satisfied to a great extent. I hope I'll make no mistakes anymore.

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