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    My first reaction is that we don't use 'excited' for inanimate things, but I'll have to mull it over.

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    Default Re: To Mike sensei

    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee
    Perhaps I would become excited if I saw that Michael Jordan was entering the game, but I would use something else to describe the tenor of the game. Perhaps animated or exciting or interesting.

    :)
    I know you would normally choose those words instead of "excited". But that's not my question. My question is, why can't "As soon as M. Jordan came in, the game became excited." be understood as a metaphor?

    One more thing to ask. You said you would use "animated". If "animated" is possible, why not "excited"?
    I would use "animated" to describe the pace of the game. (You could also say a game is fast or slow.) But "excited" would, in my opinion, describe the way the game feels, but games don't have feelings. (True, electrons can become excited, but electrons move; games usually do not.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBee
    I would use "animated" to describe the pace of the game. (You could also say a game is fast or slow.) But "excited" would, in my opinion, describe the way the game feels, but games don't have feelings. (True, electrons can become excited, but electrons move; games usually do not.)

    :)
    "An excited game" is acceptable, but, according to your theory, "the game became excited" is not.

    Such an enigma...really... :?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taka

    FYI, check this out:

    "I'm just trying to play a relaxed game," Miller said. "An excited game isn't the style that works up here and luckily for me, I'm more relaxed, not real flashy and flamboyant. I can let the game kind of come to me."

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/score...JOSE---0nr.htm

    What do you think?
    It's new. :D
    It means, tensed-up, heated.

    An excited game: a tensed-up game / a heated game
    The game became excited: The game got tense / heated.
    Don't get all excited: tensed up / heated

    Douitashimashite 8)

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    Default Re: To Mike sensei

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    It's new. :D
    You mean it was quite recently that native speakers started using it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    The game became excited: The game got tense / heated.
    So, though not widely, it is acceptable, as Mr. Will says, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    It's new. :D
    You mean it was quite recently that native speakers started using it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    The game became excited: The game got tense / heated.
    So, though not widely, it is acceptable, as Mr. Will says, right?
    Well, it's acceptable within a certain area (i.e. sports). :D It's a semantic extension of sorts which has yet to make its way through the language. It's still on the fringe; but, if speakers start using it elsewhere (i.e. outside of sports), it may catch on. At the moment, though, it comes across as awkward, especially if speakers haven't heard it before.

    1. John is exciting. (Describes what people think of John)
    2. John is excited. (Describes John's emotional state)

    3. The game is exciting. (Describes what people think of the game)
    4. The game is excited. (Describes the games emotional state.) NOT OK

    Try, the players/fans excite/stir up the game:

    5. The game is (being) excited (by the players/by the fans) . OK
    6. Don't excite the game! OK
    7. It's an excited/stirred up/heated game. OK

    All the best,

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    Default Re: To Mike sensei

    So, "As soon as Michael Jordan came in, the game became excited." is OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    So, "As soon as Michael Jordan came in, the game became excited." is OK?
    The game got stirred up, tense, heated up. :D

    All the best,

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    Default Re: To Mike sensei

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    So, "As soon as Michael Jordan came in, the game became excited." is OK?
    The game got stirred up, tense, heated up. :D

    All the best,
    I'm asking you if it sounds natural to you or not.

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    Default Re: To Mike sensei

    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    So, "As soon as Michael Jordan came in, the game became excited." is OK?
    The game got stirred up, tense, heated up. :D

    All the best,
    I'm asking you if it sounds natural to you or not.
    I've stated my professional opinion: The game did not get exciting; it got stirred up, heated, tense. :D (My personal opinion is of no consequence. It's all about what you think. 8))

    What do you think? :D

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