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    Are these sentences correct:
    1-I would hate him to win.
    2-I would hate for him to win.
    3-I would hate it for him to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW
    Are these sentences correct:
    1-I would hate him to win.
    2-I would hate for him to win.
    3-I would hate it for him to win.
    1 is correct; 2 and 3 are wrong.

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    Thank you.
    I am sure what you say applies to British English but I just wonder if an American would give the same answer.

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    I think Americans might well feel differently- I have heard 'hate for him'

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW
    Are these sentences correct:
    1-I would hate him to win.
    2-I would hate for him to win.
    3-I would hate it for him to win.
    I cannot, of course, speak for all Americans, but my advice is the opposite of Gwen's.

    1. No.
    2. Yes.
    3. Yes.

    It is apparent (tho not certain) that it is an AE/BE difference.

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    If you say 2 and 3 are correct, I won’t argue with you. (My ears hear differently, that’s all.)

    But I can assure you that the construction “hate” + noun + “to” infinitive is perfectly valid. There is nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

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    I really think this is a difference between American English and British English.
    I saw an excerpt from the new Lars Von Triers film "Dogville" with Nicole Kidman, and if I am not misaken Ms. Kidman says at one point: "I'd hate it for you to think ..." (I know Ms. Kidman is Australian but she has lived in America for a long time and what's more the film takes place in America.) The sentence sounded very strange to me and that's what prompted me to post this question. May-be we can do a poll on this or something?

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    "I'd hate it for you to think ..." sounds odd to me too! A poll sounds like a good idea. Why not set one up? :D
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    I am only a beginner. One of you people should do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FW
    I am only a beginner. One of you people should do it!
    Done: http://www.usingenglish.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=646
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