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    Hi all,

    Please help me understand the difference between the following two sentences!

    :? :? :?

    #1 The teacher pointed to the maps that were hanging on the rare wall of the class room. (restrictive) What does this sentence mean?

    #2 The teacher pointed the maps, which were hanging on the rare wall of the class room.(non-restrictive) What does this sentence mean?


    Thank you very much. :D :D :D

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    Default restrictive vs. non-restrictive

    Hi all,

    Please help me understand the difference between the following two sentences!

    :? :? :?

    #1 The teacher pointed to the maps that were hanging on the rare wall of the class room. (restrictive) What does this sentence mean?

    #2 The teacher pointed the maps, which were hanging on the rare wall of the class room.(non-restrictive) What does this sentence mean?


    Thank you very much. :D :D :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    Hi all,

    Please help me understand the difference between the following two sentences!

    :? :? :?

    #1 The teacher pointed to the maps that were hanging on the rare wall of the class room. (restrictive) What does this sentence mean?

    #2 The teacher pointed the maps, which were hanging on the rare wall of the class room.(non-restrictive) What does this sentence mean?


    Thank you very much. :D :D :D
    The difference between restrictive and non-restrictive is whether you put a comma before relative pronoun or not. In addition, comma is not allowed before relative pronoun 'that'.

    #1
    There were maps hanging on the walls of the classroom, which means the wall on your left, the wall on yor right, the wall behind or in front of you has maps on it. And the teacher just pointed the rear wall rather than other walls around you.

    #2
    Where were the maps?
    You can only see maps on the rear wall. That's it. You can't see maps on your left, on your right, behind or in front of you.



    Examples
    1. My students that works at the restaurant are nice.
    ==> I have many students. They have different occupations. But here I am talking about those who work at the restaurant.

    2. My students, who works at the restaurant, are nice.
    ==> All of my students work at the restaurant. All of them are nice.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous
    Hi all,

    Please help me understand the difference between the following two sentences!

    :? :? :?

    #1 The teacher pointed to the maps that were hanging on the rare wall of the class room. (restrictive) What does this sentence mean?

    #2 The teacher pointed the maps, which were hanging on the rare wall of the class room.(non-restrictive) What does this sentence mean?


    Thank you very much. :D :D :D
    The difference between restrictive and non-restrictive is whether you put a comma before relative pronoun or not. In addition, comma is not allowed before relative pronoun 'that'.

    #1
    There were maps hanging on the walls of the classroom, which means the wall on your left, the wall on yor right, the wall behind or in front of you has maps on it. And the teacher just pointed the rear wall rather than other walls around you.

    #2
    Where were the maps?
    You can only see maps on the rear wall. That's it. You can't see maps on your left, on your right, behind or in front of you.



    Examples
    1. My students that works at the restaurant are nice.
    ==> I have many students. They have different occupations. But here I am talking about those who work at the restaurant.

    2. My students, who works at the restaurant, are nice.
    ==> All of my students work at the restaurant. All of them are nice.

    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    The difference between restrictive and non-restrictive is whether you put a comma before relative pronoun or not. In addition, comma is not allowed before relative pronoun 'that'.

    #1
    There were maps hanging on the walls of the classroom, which means the wall on your left, the wall on yor right, the wall behind or in front of you has maps on it. And the teacher just pointed the rear wall rather than other walls around you.

    #2
    Where were the maps?
    You can only see maps on the rear wall. That's it. You can't see maps on your left, on your right, behind or in front of you.



    Examples
    1. My students that works at the restaurant are nice.
    ==> I have many students. They have different occupations. But here I am talking about those who work at the restaurant.

    2. My students, who works at the restaurant, are nice.
    ==> All of my students work at the restaurant. All of them are nice.

    Hope that helps.
    Very good teacher! Let me make a couple of corrections.

    The difference between restrictive and non-restrictive is whether you put a comma before the relative pronoun or not. In addition, a comma is not allowed before the relative pronoun 'that'.

    #1
    There were maps hanging on all the walls of the classroom, which means the wall on your left, the wall on your right, the wall behind or in front of you has maps on it. And the teacher just pointed to the rear wall.

    #2
    Where were the maps?
    You can only see maps on the rear wall. That's it. You can't see maps on your left, on your right, behind or in front of you.

    Examples
    1. My students that work at the restaurant are nice.
    ==> I have many students. They have different occupations. But here I am talking about those who work at the restaurant.

    2. My students, who work at the restaurant, are nice.
    ==> All of my students work at the restaurant. All of them are nice.

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    Dear Mike,
    That's very nice of you to raise the finger to correct my mistakes.


    Re: How absent-minded I was!
    • My students, who work at the restaurant are nice.
      My students that work at the restaurant are nice.



    Re: These articles take me forever!
    the/a/ no article


    Your correction is much appreciated. Again, thanks! < a BIG kiss >
    :D :D :D :D :D

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    The children, who ran up the hills, are mine.
    The children, who ran up the hills are mine.


    Question
    Does the omission of the second comma in the first sentence make any grammatical change?

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    I don't think you can remove the 2nd comma.

    FRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    I don't think you can remove the 2nd comma.

    FRC
    I think so too. Either use both commas or omit both. Thank you, FRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Dear Mike,
    That's very nice of you to raise the finger to correct my mistakes.


    Re: How absent-minded I was!
    • My students, who work at the restaurant are nice.
      My students that work at the restaurant are nice.



    Re: These articles take me forever!
    the/a/ no article


    Your correction is much appreciated. Again, thanks! < a BIG kiss >
    :D :D :D :D :D
    I was very impressed by your explanation and examples. Don't fret about a couple of minor errors. You are doing great! :wink:

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