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    Where's the stress?
    Are there several ways to pronounce it? What are they (in ASCII phonetic alphabet) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    Where's the stress?
    Are there several ways to pronounce it? What are they (in ASCII phonetic alphabet) ?

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    1. sh'ka'go
    2. shIh'ka'go (the [h] is unaspirated)
    3. shIk'ka'go (the first [k] is unaspirated)

    'a' is variable: [a] or [ae]

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    Two stresses? I'm still not sure how your examples sound like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    Two stresses? I'm still not sure how your examples sound like
    Let me try. This is the way I say it:

    shi (with a short i as in ship)
    ka (the a sounds like the interjection "ah")
    go ( like the verb)

    Stress the second syllable.
    Chi CA go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    Two stresses? I'm still not sure how your examples sound like
    It's me again. Sorry, I've just realized that you wanted phonetic symbols.

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    Phonetic alphabet is useful for that purpose.
    I know it's gonna be something like /shik@go/, but I can imagine several variations:
    1. /'shik..gOu/
    2. /'shik..go/
    3. /sh..'k@gOu/
    3. /sh..'k@go/
    4. /shi'k@gOu/

    I think you mean 4. then, but are there other pronunciations?

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    We posted in the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    Two stresses? I'm still not sure how your examples sound like
    Nope. I've used the symbol " ' " to represent a syllable break. :D

    The stress is on the second syllable [ka]/[kae]:

    Chi'ka'go

    The first syllable houses a lax vowel, as in the sound of the "i" vowel in the word sit.

    ChI'ka'go (pronunication #1) "Ch" is pronounced as [sh]

    Note: The lax vowel syllable is closed by an unaspirated [h].

    ChI[h]'ka'go "Ch" is pronounced as [sh]

    For some speakers, [h] is omitted, leaving the lax vowel in an open syllable at a syllable boundary. In such cases, the following consonant is dragged across the syllable boundary to close the preceeding syllable,

    ChIk'ka'go (pronunciation #2) "Ch" is pronounced as [sh]

    For some speakers, syllable-final lax vowels are often reduced to schwa (i.e. the vowel sound in the), and schwa is often omitted syllable-finally,

    Ch'ka'go (pronunciation #3) "Ch" is pronounced as [sh]

    For some speakers, although rare, the lax vowel changes to a non-lax vowel. That is lax "I" becomes [i], as in see,

    Chi'ka'go ==> (shee'ka'go) (Pronunciation #4)

    There're probably more.

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    Ok, it's clearer.
    The most common is probably
    /shi'k@gOu/ or /sh..'k@gOu/
    then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    Where's the stress?
    Are there several ways to pronounce it? What are they (in ASCII phonetic alphabet) ?

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    I was born and raised in Chicago.

    There are only two main pronunciations, and most of the people who live there use only the first.

    chi CA go The main stress is on the second syllable.

    1. shi (as in ship) + caw (rhymes with paw) + go (just like the verb go)
    2. shi (as in ship) + cah (rymes with rah) + go (just like the verb go)

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