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    Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Hi all,
    well these two are more related to English culture than strict languaje but I need some help for a full understanding...

    - What is a butter-bolt? (in a kitchen)
    - What is the "soup turin" used for? (Yes, an item of a pottery set, but could anyone please describe it for me?)

    Thanks a lot

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by jiho View Post
    Hi all,
    well these two are more related to English culture than strict languaje but I need some help for a full understanding...

    - What is a butter-bolt? (in a kitchen)
    - What is the "soup turin" used for? (Yes, an item of a pottery set, but could anyone please describe it for me?)

    Thanks a lot
    soup tureen large container with a lid, usually ceramic but can be silver >> tureen - Google Image Search

    I've never met the term "butter bolt" in a kitchen. Do you have a sentence in which it appears?

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    soup tureen large container with a lid, usually ceramic but can be silver >> tureen - Google Image Search

    I've never met the term "butter bolt" in a kitchen. Do you have a sentence in which it appears?
    Thanks Anglika,
    I suposed there was some spelling mistake, as I have already found quite some in the text I am reading, but certain ones are difficult for me to guess...

    Context: Both terms appear in a list of strange (quite useless) things for a nineteenth-century explorer to take with him for a long-term wild country survey:
    Wine glasses, butter-bolts, tea-trays, soup turins (sic)...

    Thank you again

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    I queried it because there is a term "butter-bolt" relating to guns, and it seems more likely that he took extra "butter-bolts" in case he needed to carry out repairs. http://tinyurl.com/2tx3vk

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    I queried it because there is a term "butter-bolt" relating to guns, and it seems more likely that he took extra "butter-bolts" in case he needed to carry out repairs. http://tinyurl.com/2tx3vk
    Yes, i was aware of that. But the more logical to take spare «butter-bolts» related to guns is, the less likely it is to be the meaning of the speaker.
    Butter-bolts would then be pretty useful and the list is composed of useless things.

    The speaker is complaining about the lack of understanding about the needs of a surveyor from the ladies who had prepared his baggage.

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by jiho View Post
    Yes, i was aware of that. But the more logical to take spare «butter-bolts» related to guns is, the less likely it is to be the meaning of the speaker.
    Butter-bolts would then be pretty useful and the list is composed of useless things.

    The speaker is complaining about the lack of understanding about the needs of a surveyor from the ladies who had prepared his baggage.
    Could it be another misspelling and mean «butter vault»? (an item to keep butter fresh seems more of an extra weight than a helpful thing for a surveyor, don't you think?) Guess is free...

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    A really nice head-scratcher this one!

    A butter tub is a recognized term for a container to carry large amounts of butter.

    Hey - how about "butter boat"? A small vessel for carrying melted butter at table - pretty useless on an expedition!

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    A really nice head-scratcher this one!

    A butter tub is a recognized term for a container to carry large amounts of butter.

    Hey - how about "butter boat"? A small vessel for carrying melted butter at table - pretty useless on an expedition!
    Good one that one...
    Well, trying to scape from a fatal slide, all surrounded of melted butter... Here i come back on topic:
    A bolt is also a roll of cloth, isn't it? Could a Butter-bolt be some kind of cloth roll? Does it make any sense in your view?

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    (please, don't answer it is a kind of towel to dry off the butter after you land out of the butter-boat...) I shouldn't do this again... How would any of you take this seriously?

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by jiho View Post
    Thanks Anglika,
    I suposed there was some spelling mistake, as I have already found quite some in the text I am reading, but certain ones are difficult for me to guess...

    Context: Both terms appear in a list of strange (quite useless) things for a nineteenth-century explorer to take with him for a long-term wild country survey:
    Wine glasses, butter-bolts, tea-trays, soup turins (sic)...

    Thank you again
    Perhaps it was a rifle, though it is not 19th century:

    BELCHER MCPHERSON AUCTION COMPANY

    28. STEYR MANNLICHER SCHOENAUER MODEL 1924, .335
    SEQUOIA, 3 LEAF REAR SIGHT, BUTTER BOLT RIFLE
    S#507, STEYR MADE IN AUSTRIA, PRE WWII

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    Re: Soup Turin & Butter-bolt

    Quote Originally Posted by Naamplao View Post
    Perhaps it was a rifle, though it is not 19th century:

    BELCHER MCPHERSON AUCTION COMPANY

    28. STEYR MANNLICHER SCHOENAUER MODEL 1924, .335
    SEQUOIA, 3 LEAF REAR SIGHT, BUTTER BOLT RIFLE
    S#507, STEYR MADE IN AUSTRIA, PRE WWII
    We had agreed that it was not the gun reference.

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