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    #1

    About pronunciation

    Do the words "passed" and "past" pronounce the same ?

    Is that the past tense of many words with "ed" read as "st" sound?

    Offhand,i can think of some words:

    asked,follwed,played,communicated,practised,raised ,ended,cried,etc.

    Are the above-mentioned words all ended with "st" sound or "ed" sound ?

    Ambiguously,i remember that English native speakers end the word "ended" with "ed" sound,but "passed" with "st" sound.

    I am sorry that if u cant catch what i mentioned...(since i really feel difficult to express it..)

    I would be extremely grateful if someone can explain this to me ... as it really confused me to death... I,as a chinese,somehow feel a little bit frustrated as i am so weak in the pronunciation area

    thank you ,i am looking forward to the replies. :o


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    Regular past-tense formation rule: The past-tense morpheme '-ed' has three different allomorphs, such as [t] [d] and [Id]

    1. help. look, kiss, wish ==> [t]
    Those ended with a voiceless sound(except for 't' and 'd'), read as helpt

    2. love, cuddle, kill, lie ==> [d]
    Those ended with a voiced sound, read as loved, killd

    3. state, wound ==> [Id]
    Those ended with a voiced sound, read as statId, woundId

    Does that help?


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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Regular past-tense formation rule: The past-tense morpheme '-ed' has three different allomorphs, such as [t] [d] and [Id]

    1. help. look, kiss, wish ==> [t]
    Those ended with a voiceless sound(except for 't' and 'd'), read as helpt

    2. love, cuddle, kill, lie ==> [d]
    Those ended with a voiced sound, read as loved, killd

    3. state, wound ==> [Id]
    Those ended with a voiced sound, read as statId, woundId

    Does that help?
    First,i am really glad to get ur reply ^^

    hmm...however...i still dont understand how to distinguish if the word is ended with voiced or voiceless..


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    A 'voiced' sound is one pronounced while the breath passes over and reverberates on the vocal chords, while a 'voiceless' sound lacks that feature.

    It's rather difficult for me to understand this sentence, can you teach me in a much more simple way???


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    #5
    Try:
    cab b is voiced.
    cap p is voiceless. Without voice.

    Does it help? :)


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    #6
    =.="""
    i am still confused about it ><"
    perhaps i am too stupid...


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    #7
    ssssssss is voiceless
    zzzzzzzz is voiced

    You notice the vocal chords are vibrating in the second case? Apart from that this is the same sound.

    FRC


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    #8
    hmm....i think i get a better view of them~i am so happy about your helps,including blacknomi and francois

    so,can u show me some distinct examples to illustrate this idea


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    #9
    how can i distinguish between voiced and voiceless immediately when i come across them ???

    is there any easier approach for me to identify them instantly ? or just read them once to identify ?

    thanks


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