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    why S sometimes pronounce /s/ and sometimes /z/?

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    Question Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Quote Originally Posted by M.Mozaffary View Post
    why S sometimes pronounce /s/ and sometimes /z/?

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    There's no hard and fast rule of pronunciation in English. It all depends on hearing of native speakers like every other language in the world. Though there are some certain rules that help non-native speakers or learners to master the correct pronunciation. I, therefore, suggest to you that you listen to native speakers by watching television programmes, listening to the radio or some CDs and cassettes.
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    Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Are you referring to words such as realize, organize, and words ending -ize and -ise?

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    Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    He is referring to IPA.

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    Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Quote Originally Posted by M.Mozaffary View Post
    why S sometimes pronounce /s/ and sometimes /z/?

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    The general rule, [s] after a voiceless sound and [z] after a voiced sound. For example,

    cat[s]
    dog[z]

    Read more here ...

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    Question Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soup View Post
    The general rule, [s] after a voiceless sound and [z] after a voiced sound. For example,

    cat[s]
    dog[z]

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    Dear Soup, how about the general use of "s" in English, for example:
    sistser [s] but resist [z] Why?
    syllable [s] but clumsy [z] why?
    vast [s] but was [z]why?
    insert [s] but reserve [z] why?
    seat [s] but disease [z] why?
    absent [s] but present [z] why?
    There are so many more examples like the above. Do they have any rules?
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    Question Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Quote Originally Posted by David L. View Post
    Are you referring to words such as realize, organize, and words ending -ize and -ise?
    Dear David, please tell us the rule[s] of ize and ise if there are. It'll certainly increase our knowledge.
    Regards!
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    Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Dear dawoodusmani,

    sister [s]
    The next sound [t] is voiceless

    resist [z]
    It sits between two voiced sounds

    syllable [s]
    [s] is a sound in English. No pattern here.

    clumsy [z]
    [z] sits between two voiced sounds, [m]..[y]

    vast [s]
    The next sound [t] is voiceless
    was [z] no reason

    insert [s]
    It sits at a boundary, in+sert (from Latin serere to link together). Modern insert is a fused form. So, no pattern here today.

    reserve [z]
    It's also from Latin, but came into English from Middle French; hence the [z].

    Hope that helped out some.

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    Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Quote Originally Posted by dawoodusmani View Post
    Dear David, please tell us the rule[s] of ize and ise if there are. It'll certainly increase our knowledge.
    Regards!
    Dawood
    There is a great deal written about that. This may be of some help to you.

    ize or ise - Google Search

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    Re: S=/s/ or /z/?

    Just to throw a wrench/spanner....

    Why
    to close [z] --verb--
    yet...
    too close [s] --adj.--

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