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    The book is too hard to carry.
    The book is too hard to be carried.
    Which one is correct? If the first sentence is correct butt not the second one, why so?

    Thanks! :o

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    Quote Originally Posted by bread
    The book is too hard to carry.
    The book is too hard to be carried.
    Which one is correct? If the first sentence is correct butt not the second one, why so?

    Thanks! :o
    The phrase for us is often omitted,

    The book is too heavy to carry.
    The book is too heavy for us to carry.
    The book is too heavy to be carried for us. (Not OK)

    Note, hard describes a surface, whereas heavy describes weight.

    All the best, :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by bread
    The book is too hard to carry.
    The book is too hard to be carried.
    Which one is correct? If the first sentence is correct butt not the second one, why so?

    Thanks! :o
    The phrase for us is often omitted,

    The book is too heavy to carry.
    The book is too heavy for us to carry.
    The book is too heavy to be carried for us. (Not OK)

    Note, hard describes a surface, whereas heavy describes weight.

    All the best, :D
    Can "hard" mean "very difficult?"
    I meant the bk is very difficult too carry

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    In that sense, it would make sense to say 'the book is too hard to read'. I can't see it working with 'carry'.

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    The books are too heavy to be carried <= this sounds fine to me. No native speaker likes it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    The books are too heavy to be carried <= this sounds fine to me. No native speaker likes it?

    FRC
    You're right; my comment, though, was on the semantic structure of the passive structure:

    1. The books are too heavy (for us) to carry. (Active) :D
    2. The books are too heavy to be carried for us. (Passive) :(
    => 'by us' would have been the correct form. :wink:
    3. The books are too heavy to be carried by us. :D

    Of course, 2 is grammatical given a situation wherein someone asks to carry our books: "The books are too heavy to be carried for us (i.e. You shouldn't carry them for us; they're too heavy).

    In short, 1. refers to "us" as the carriers (the ones doing the action), not the carriees (the ones having the action done for them).

    Is carriees even a word? Hehe

    All the best, FRC. :D

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    OK, sry for the misunderstanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    OK, sry for the misunderstanding.

    FRC
    No apologies necessary. :D Questions are good! 8)

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