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    Smile passive or active

    hi guys
    i have a question about the passive and active voice.
    which form (active or passive ) is correct in the following sentences?why?is there any rule here?

    1.the room was filled with smoke
    2.the room filled with smoke

    1.the sails was filled with wind
    2.the sails filled with wind

    thanks

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    Re: passive or active

    Your examples are all passive voice. The following are the active voice forms:

    The smoke filled the room.
    The wind filled the sails.

    The passive voice is when the subject of a sentence (smoke, wind) is replaced by its object (room, sails) and the subject is then moved into a prepositional phrase (with smoke, with wind).


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    Re: passive or active

    Quote Originally Posted by geneticist View Post
    hi guys
    i have a question about the passive and active voice.
    which form (active or passive ) is correct in the following sentences?why?is there any rule here?

    1.the room was filled with smoke
    2.the room filled with smoke

    1.the sails were [was] filled with wind
    2.the sails filled with wind

    thanks
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    Mike wrote:

    Your examples are all passive voice.

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    I don't think that number 2 in each set are passive, Mike. The passive needs some form of the 'be' verb {depending on the "tense" shown}+ the past participle.

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    Re: passive or active

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
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    Mike wrote:

    Your examples are all passive voice.

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    I don't think that number 2 in each set are passive, Mike. The passive needs some form of the 'be' verb {depending on the "tense" shown}+ the past participle.
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    i think all of them are passive although the number 2 in each set aren't passive grammatically but they make sense passive.
    what do you think of that??

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    Re: passive or active

    Riverkid is, as usual, correct. The passive voice sentence must include some form of the copular verb to be. However, neither the room nor the sails were doing the filling even though they appear to be the subjects.

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    Re: passive or active

    i think you didn't understand me yet, i mean (and think) there are some words in english make sense both passive and active,for e.g the word fill is explained in oxford dictionary as
    1.to make sth full of sth ----- this means active---- e.g. the smoke filled the room

    2.to become full of sth --------this means passive ----e.g. her eyes suddenly filled with tears or the sails filled with the wind (the latter is written in oxford dictionary)
    as i said before,it is passive but not grammatically.in your opinion am i right?
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    Re: passive or active

    I agree with you that the sentences are passive in nature, but they fail to pass the grammatical test as passive constructions.

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    Re: passive or active

    Quote Originally Posted by mykwyner View Post
    I agree with you that the sentences are passive in nature, but they fail to pass the grammatical test as passive constructions.
    mike! as a native speaking english,which form you prefer to use in spoken &written english?

    her eyes were filled with tears
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    her eyes filled with fear

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    Re: passive or active

    mike! as a native speaking english,which form you prefer to use in spoken &written english?

    her eyes were filled with tears
    or
    her eyes filled with fear


    I would use either, depending on which I thought would work better with what I was writing. The key to good writing is to be critical of your own work and revise, revise, revise!


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    Re: passive or active

    As far as I know they are not passive sentences. It is just a participle used as an adjective (subject complement) as in 'I'm annoyed with you' or 'The hil was covered in snow'.

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