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    Excuse me, Cas. Where did you edit it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    In terms of syntax which functions as the object of the preposition 'to' and as such it refers to 'belongings' (i.e., Choice (b)),
    Did you mean to say "Choice (a)" instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    In terms of semantics 'other belongings' has scope: The noun 'belongings' refers back to 'rugs, towels, and baskets' (Choice (a)).
    I think that's " "Choice (b)".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    In terms of syntax which functions as the object of the preposition 'to' and as such it refers to 'belongings'
    But it has "other" in front, Cas. It's other things. So I think rugs, towels, and baskets are excluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    That is, 'belongings' sans it modifier 'other' refers to (b)
    Actually, however, it does have "other"; "other belongings" and "belongings" are semantically different. So, I don't understand why you take it separately. Plus such analysis doesn't seem to work for the other examples I've given, such as "Television, radio and other sources of information that surround us".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    That is, 'belongings' sans it modifier 'other' refers to (b)
    Actually, however, it does have "other"; "other belongings" and "belongings" are semantically different. So, I don't understand why you take it separately.
    That they are different is the solution. :D 'other belongings' exclude 'towels, rugs, and baskets', but 'belongings' include 'towels, rugs, and baskets.

    EX: belongings such as towels, rugs, baskets, and others/etc./and so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    Plus such analysis doesn't seem to work for the other examples I've given, such as "Television, radio and other sources of information that surround us".
    It works. :D Television and radio are 'sources of information that surround us'. That is, 'other' doesn't refer to 'Television and radio', but 'sources of...' does.

    I think we'll have to agree to disagree, Taka. :D
    This is my final post on this thread. :wink:

    All the best, :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by Taka
    Plus such analysis doesn't seem to work for the other examples I've given, such as "Television, radio and other sources of information that surround us".
    It works. :D Television and radio are 'sources of information that surround us'. That is, 'other' doesn't refer to 'Television and radio', but 'sources of...' does.
    However, I'm sure you think that, unlike "to which" in our beach marker-example, the relative pronoun "that" refers not to "Television and radio" but to "other sources of information" only, don't you? That's why I don't think your way of analysis, like separating "other" from "things" and considering "things" semantically include every item of the same kind, is useful to determine which part or the sentence the relative pronoun refers to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    I think we'll have to agree to disagree
    Yeh...I'm beginning to realize that...
    If only anything really persuasive came along...

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