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    I turn it into a contest, telling the loudest group will win a prize. Who do you think makes the most noise? The last group.

    I would think that the prize is somehow specific, so is it proper to use a definite article 'the' in this context?

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    ' prize ' is not specific I guess unless we elaborate on it.

    You will win a prize in this contest and the prize is a big watch :)

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    Phil Jacksons, coach of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team, is a dedicated believer in the power of visualisation.
    Why not 'the' coach of the Los Angeles...

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    The use of ' the ' gives a sense of making comparison. If there is no such purpose involved, there is no such necessity.

    Example.

    Rachel is a girl. :) Even though we know who we are talking about

    If two coaches involved and we want to specify either one, then ' the ' is used

    Phil Jackson, the coach of A team, is better than any other coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Phil Jacksons, coach of the Los Angeles Lakers basketball team, is a dedicated believer in the power of visualisation.
    Why not 'the' coach of the Los Angeles...
    Phil, the coach of Los Angeles Lakers basketball, is....
    Because he leads the team and that makes him the coach of Team A.


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    Sorry, I didn't finish reading your post before posting mine. I see your point. It makes sense if we provide two teams in the context and make it a comparative like the example you gave. And my point is since he is the coach of Team A, not the player. What do you think?

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    If ' the ' is used, it means that he is a coach from a particular place that is ' Los Angeles ' and not from other place.

    No harm in specifying that anyway :). It is not wrong or what just gives such a sense I mean. OK another example

    Dogs are a faithful animal.

    The dogs are a faithful animal.

    Both are correct, but the one with ' the ' means ', they are compared to other animals.

    The first is in its general sense

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    Thank you. I got it! :D
    I'll come up with some others later.

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