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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    If I were a student of yours in Japan, that would be fatastic! :wink:
    Thanks/Thanx :D

    Where are your students from?

    From all walks of life. :D
    From stinky kids to gray power. :D
    Most of them are Taiwanese(Chinese, no political issue involved.) I've had several Korean and Japanese before. And I do find similiar pattern of learning English between them. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    If I were a student of yours in Japan, that would be fatastic! :wink:
    Thanks/Thanx :D

    Where are your students from?

    From all walks of life. :D
    From stinky kids to gray power. :D
    Most of them are Taiwanese(Chinese, no political issue involved.) I've had several Korean and Japanese before. And I do find similiar pattern of learning English between them. :D
    I've also taught those groups. :D I'm curious as to the 'patterns of learning' you've notice. Do tell. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    1) Success not only depends on talent but also on effort. :(
    2) Succcess depends not only on talent but also on effort. :D

    We have to put preposition phrase after 'not only' if thre's any. In addition, either preposition that follows 'not only' and 'but also' cannot be omitted. Am I wrong?
    not only...but also is a correlative conjunction. It joins words, phases, or clauses of equal rank.

    Verb phrases
    Success not only depends on talent, but also requires initiative.

    Prepositional phrases
    Success depends not only on talent, but also on effort.

    Noun phrases
    Not only milk, but also bread.

    Clauses
    Not only does he do his best, but also he does it correctly.

    From Michael Swan
    Mid-position with the verb is also possible. In this case, not only is generally used without do.
    She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
    1. I don't know what is mid-position. I need you badly.
    2. She not only plays the piano, but also violin. Unequal rank. :?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    From Michael Swan
    Mid-position with the verb is also possible. In this case, not only is generally used without do.
    She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
    1. I don't know what is mid-position. I need you badly.
    2. She not only plays the piano, but also violin. Unequal rank. :?
    Mid-sentence. :wink: "Not only..., but also" generally tends to occur sentence-intially. Swan points out that it can occur sentence-medially: in the middle of a sentence, in mid-position. :wink:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casiopea
    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    From Michael Swan
    Mid-position with the verb is also possible. In this case, not only is generally used without do.
    She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
    1. I don't know what is mid-position. I need you badly.
    2. She not only plays the piano, but also violin. Unequal rank. :?
    Mid-sentence. :wink: "Not only..., but also" generally tends to occur sentence-intially. Swan points out that it can occur sentence-medially: in the middle of a sentence, in mid-position. :wink:

    She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
    Success not only depends on talent but also on effort.

    You have mentioned it before that not only...but also... is a correlative conjunt that requires equal grammatical category. Remember? So how about those sentences listed above?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacknomi
    She not only plays the piano, but also violin.
    Success not only depends on talent but also on effort.

    You mentioned before that not only...but also... is a correlative conjunction that requires equal grammatical category. Remember? So how about those sentences listed above?
    Good question. :up

    1. Verb phrase + Verb phrase
    plays the piano + (plays) the violin
    => The word (play) has been omitted. The reason being, redundancy.

    The same distribution holds true for 2.

    2. Verb phrase + Verb Phrase
    depends on talent + (depends) on effort
    => The word (depends) has been omitted. :wink:

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    I would say "she not only plays the piano, but also the violin".

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    Redundancy! Sigh, I should have know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois
    I would say "she not only plays the piano, but also the violin".

    FRC
    Good catch. 8)

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    2. omitted 'but':
    Not only did he do that, (but) he also did this.
    I omit also.
    Not only did he do that, but he did this.

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