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    apply to, true of, etc.

    I'm searching my dicitionaries (monolingual and bilingual) for appropriate expressions - without success.

    I found theses ones:

    to apply for / to so. / sth.

    to be true of so. / sth.

    to be aimed at so.

    to hold true/good for so.

    It's confusing me.

    When do you use these expressions? What are the differences?

    Can you help me, please?

    Thanks
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    Re: apply to, true of, etc.

    What is so and sth (something)????
    Please don't use text messaging abbreviations when asking a question.

    1) to apply for / 2) to so. / 3) sth.

    1) make an application for; He applied for a loan;
    2) apply to the university for admittance to the program
    3) put on; apply makeup to the face
    also, "apply yourself" which means to try your best, make an effort to do something to the best of your ability.


    1) to be true of so. / sth.
    1) it must be "to be true to"; faithful to

    2) to be aimed at so.
    ???


    3) to hold true
    to last, honor; respect; The colors held true on that old quilt; He held true to the wedding vows

    4) good for so.
    4) good for something? - fits, works, This hat is good for gardening.

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    Re: apply to, true of, etc.

    Thanks a lot!!

    so. (someone), sth. (something) are common abbreviations in German-English dictionaries. Sorry, I thought it is international.

    It's difficult for me to explain. All those expressions above-mentioned have the same meaning in German. There is one German expression for all these English ones.
    Obviously, some don't exist at all??!

    Let me give you an example to show you what I mean (sorry, I have to cite a dictionary, it's easier for me )

    2.apply - be pertinent or relevant or applicable; "The same laws apply to you!"; "This theory holds for all irrational numbers"; "The same rules go for everyone" go for, hold (synonyms)
    concern, have-to doe with, pertain, bear on, come to, touch on, refer, relate, touch (related words) - be relevant to; "There were lots of questions referring to her talk"; "My remark pertained to your earlier comments"

    lend oneself, apply - be applicable to; as to an analysis; "This theory lends itself well to our new data"

    Do you know what I mean?

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    Attention: I'm not a teacher.

    Hi snowcake,

    I took pleasure in the implementation of the following fugitive investigation of the matter in question. I accomplished it in order to help you to understand the meaning of the mentioned above expressions. I’m afraid, it is quite possible, that I didn’t see what you mean with your original post. I can always try.

    aim to (idiom) = try or intend to do something, as in
    We aim to please, or
    She aims to fly to California.
    This term derives from aim in the sense of "direct the course of something," such as an arrow or bullet.
    We aim at safeguarding peace
    to aim at point a gun towards
    to aim to do something have as a plan or intention
    to aim at doing something
    to aim at perfection (to aim at being perfect)
    to aim deliberately (consciously) at something (at doing something)
    to aim at somebody send, direct, eg. a blow, object (at sb. or smth.)
    to aim at something
    to aim one’s effort at something
    he aimed at me
    I aimed the revolver at the intruder.
    to aim for
    He aimed his gun at the lion, fired and missed.
    Tom got angry with his brother and aimed a heavy book at his head.
    He aimed for the heart.
    She was aiming for a promotion.
    We aimed to please.

    to be aimed at smth. auf etwas abzielen, auf etwasabzwecken, auf etwas gerichtet sein, auf etwas hinzielen. Etwas zum Ziel haben,

    to be aimed at someone fur jmnd. gelten

    to apply for; to to request
    The captain applied to headquarters for a transfer.
    She required for a fellowship.
    We applied to the authorities for assistance.
    to apply to seek admission to
    She applied to three universities.
    to apply to to be relevant
    The rule does not apply to this case
    to apply to to concentrate one’s efforts
    She applied herself to her new duties with great energy.
    to apply to to put on
    To apply paint to a surface.
    to apply to to put to use
    To apply theory to practice.

    Such techniques are difficult to apply to real engineering components and must, considering the large number of complex geometric calculations
    Notice that the technique is extremely difficult to apply to the potentiometer divider of figure 8.1(c) because the resistance ratio can be varied continuously..
    It was necessary to apply to the prerogative Court.
    On this basis he decided to modify the by-laws so that they could continue to apply to all the world except the commoners themselves.
    It is reasonable to assume that the testator did not intend it to apply to their case too.
    Was the interdict extended to apply to trusts as well?
    He even extended the pattern to apply to the deity.
    It should also inform him of his right to apply to the court to purge his contempt.
    The same is likely to apply to the second group.

    hold true (idiom) Be valid, apply. For example,
    Does that version of events still hold good? or
    The account he gave ten years ago holds true today.
    Shakespeare used these terms frequently.
    They applied her to the committee.

    The Smiths, although already troubled by contradictions, still TRY to hold true to those early values.
    This is the stuff that, if plans hold true , will be the platform for future developments like a microkernel.
    This appears to hold true both before and after divorce.
    But what holds true within one phylum may well hold true across them.
    The objective is to see how far the trends observed in Atlanta hold true of these other cities.

    good for anything / good for so.
    Are the old big dish satellite receiver good for anything?
    Is Obama good for anything other than giving speeches?
    PCs are good for anything, just not games.

    B-trees are very good for storing numbers (for example ORACLE the relational database stores its indexes as B-trees)
    Hence they would be no good for making supper directly, though they could construct a plan for making supper.
    It is only good for learning weights, and weights are not always a reliable way to resolve conflicts.
    It is particularly good for determining inductive loss since a capacitor of negligible loss is easily provided.
    I am as good for a man as my sister Barbara is for a woman.
    It was good for business, too, not to mention socially.
    But Ivy has turned out to be so good for me I must have done the right thing.
    Since that day it hasn't looked too good for Michael, certainly not five or six months ago.
    Can that be good for education?
    It was pretty good for him to be noticed by me as I was far more impressed with WBA.

    good for nothing (n) = a person of little worth or usefulness.
    (a)= having little worth; useless.

    The land around here will be good for nothing then.
    When the Countess saw that Emily was going to be good for nothing , she let us have this house.

    Regards.

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    Re: apply to, true of, etc.

    Hi Vil,

    wow, thank you so much! I'm very pleased about your help and efforts.

    I think the problem is that I'm looking for the English translation of a German expression (yes, it's 'gelten für', however, it's not helpful to write in German here).

    Indeed, the word I have been looking for is something like 'to be valid'.
    There are lots of different possible expressions in English. I come accross this problem when it comes to specific situations.

    Example:

    1. I am not allowed to use the washing-machine and the same goes for you!

    Is this expression right in this case?


    2. I can only tell you about my problems and how I solved them. So, I don't know if the same applies to you?

    Right or wrong?

    3. Sorry, this must be a misunterstanding. I wasn't talking to you, my words were aimed at Richard.

    Right or wrong?

    4. I know that she's a liar. But the same is true of him.

    Right or wrong?

    Can anyone proofread my sentences and explain to me why they're wrong if necessary, please?

    I appreciate any help. Your posting was useful as well, Vil.

    Thank you.

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    Re: apply to, true of, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snowcake View Post
    Hi Vil,

    wow, thank you so much! I'm very pleased about your help and efforts.

    I think the problem is that I'm looking for the English translation of a German expression (yes, it's 'gelten für', however, it's not helpful to write in German here).

    Indeed, the word I have been looking for is something like 'to be valid'.
    There are lots of different possible expressions in English. I come across this problem when it comes to specific situations.

    Example:

    1. I am not allowed to use the washing-machine and the same goes for you!

    Is this expression right in this case? Perfect


    2. I can only tell you about my problems and how I solved them. So, I don't know if the same applies to you?

    Right or wrong? Perfect

    3. Sorry, this must be a misunderstanding. I wasn't talking to you, my words were aimed at Richard.

    Right or wrong? Fine if colloquial. More formally "were intended for".

    4. I know that she's a liar. But the same is true of him.

    Right or wrong? Perfect

    Can anyone proofread my sentences and explain to me why they're wrong if necessary, please?

    I appreciate any help. Your posting was useful as well, Vil.

    Thank you.

    Snowcake
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    Thank you very much, Anglika.

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