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    People's mind
    Each person has one mind apiece. :D
    People's minds
    Each person has more than one mind apiece. :(
    multiple personality

    Ambiguous *problematic*
    Max and Pat should move their car.
    =>Two cars: One car apiece or One car shared between them)
    Max and Pat should move their cars.
    =>Four cars: two cars apiece or Two cars: one car apiece.

    Noun+Noun functioning as an adjective phrase
    computer geeks gang. :D
    Computer Geeks gang. :D Capitals=Proper Name

    Noun+Noun functioning as a possessive noun phrase
    computer geeksí gang. :D
    Computer Geeks' gang. :D Capitals=Proper Name

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    Thanks.

    I don't really get this:
    Ambiguous *problematic*
    Max and Pat should move their car.
    =>Two cars: One car apiece or One car shared between them)
    I don't get what do you mean by 'two cars'. And the bold parts.

    Max and Pat should move their cars.
    =>Four cars: two cars apiece or Two cars: one car apiece.
    I don't get what you mean by four cars and the bold parts.

    What do these mean?
    1. I have joined the computer geek gang.
    2. I have joined the computer geeks gang.

    3. I have joined the computer geek's gang.
    4. I have joined the computer geeks' gang.

    Do these mean the same thing as number #3 and #4?
    5. I have joined the Computer Geeks' gang.
    6. I have joined the Computer Geek's gang.

    Are these correct? What do they mean?
    7. Do these mean the same thing as number #3 and #4?
    8. Do these mean the same things as number #3 and #4?

    Are these correct? If not, why? What do they mean?
    9. Iím going to spend one hour on MSNís website.
    10. Iím going to spend one hour on MSN website.
    11. Iím going to spend one hour on the MSN website.
    12. Iím going to spend one hour on a MSN website.

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    The phrase 'their car' is ambiguous. It has a double meaning:
    Meaning #1: max and Pat are students; they have one car each, apiece. There are two cars in total. One car belongs to Max and one car belongs to Pat.

    EX: Max and Pat should move their car.

    Meaning #2: Max and Pat are married; they share the same car. In total, there is only one car. Max and Pat share the same car.

    EX: Max and Pat should move their car.


    The phrase 'their cars' is also ambiguous.

    EX: Max and Pat should move their cars.

    Meaning #1: Max and Pat have two cars each. There are four cars in total.
    Max should move Max's cars. (Two cars or more)
    Pat should move Pat's cars. (Two cars or more)
    Two cars + Two cars = Four cars

    Meaning #2: Max and Pat have one car each. There are two cars in total.
    Max should move Max's car. (One car)
    Pat should move Pat's car. (One car)
    One car + One car = Two cars

    9. Iím going to spend one hour on MSNís website. :D
    10. Iím going to spend one hour on MSN website. :(
    11. Iím going to spend one hour on the MSN website. :D
    12. Iím going to spend one hour on a MSN website. :(

    10. is not OK. If it's a specific MSN website use 'the'. If it's not specific i.e., not one in particular, use 'an'. 12. is not OK. MSN is pronounced em-s-n. It's a vowel-initial word so use 'an' i.e., an MSN website.

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    Thanks.

    What do these mean?
    1. I love Burger King chicken sandwiches.

    2. I love Burger kingís chicken sandwiches. (Does this mean more the one sandwhich or does it mean different chicken sandwhiches? How do you know?)

    Are these correct? If not, how can I correct them?
    3. I love Burger kingís chicken sandwich.

    When do you use the apostphe? For names? For places? Does it matter I use it or not?
    eg. Turret's positon. (correct) Turret positon (correct) Either one of it works?
    e.g 'Jack's car' (correct) 'Jack car' (incorrect)

    When do I need to use the apostophe? For example:
    A: Where do I put this item?

    Which one do I use? Does it matter?
    B. It is in the computer department. (adjective)
    B. It is in the computer's department. (belongership)

    What do these questions mean? When asking you this, is it better to use 'the' or 'an'?
    4. When do I need to use the apostophe? For example:
    5. When do I need to use an apostophe? For example:
    Last edited by jack; 03-Nov-2004 at 11:24.

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    Are these both correct? If so, how do I know which one to use?
    1. Letís get ready for tomorrowís flyer.
    2. Letís get ready for tomorrow flyer.

    What do these mean?
    3.I need your driving license.
    4.I need your driver's license. (Does it matter if I use apostrophe or not?)
    5.I need your driver license.

    For this, does it matter if I use apostrophe or not? Like when I'm talking to someone, does it matter of I use an apostrophe or not? Sometimes I know I have to use an apostrophe for eg. 'Jack's car' I cannot say 'Jack Car'. But for this situation where I can use both, which one should I use?
    6. He is a Microsoft guy
    7. He is a Microsoftís guy
    Last edited by jack; 05-Nov-2004 at 08:57.

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    The underlined portion modifies the adjective-noun phrase 'chicken sandwiches':

    1. I love Burger King chicken sandwiches.

    The underlined portion tell us whose chicken sandwiches:

    2. I love Burger kingís chicken sandwiches. *king should be capitalized

    Either 'sandwiches' or 'sandwich' is OK. With the verb like~love, use a plural noun e.g., I like/love apples.

    3. I love Burger Kingís chicken sandwich. (OK)

    4. Turret's positon (possessive noun) OK
    5. a turret positon (adjective) OK if a position can be described as being 'turret'.
    6. Jack's car (possessive noun) OK
    7. a Jack car (adjective) OK if 'Jack' is a kind of car.

    8. It is in the computer department. (adjective) OK
    9. It is in the computer's department. (possessive noun) The computer owns a department?

    10. When do I need to use the apostophe? (OK, but it depends on context)

    Sam: Use an apostrophe here.
    Pat: Sorry. I wasn't paying attention to you. When do I use the apostrophe? (i.e., Specifically the one we are talking about.)

    11. When do I need to use an apostophe? (OK)

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    This is a Windows XP's service pack. (Not OK)
    1. Why is this not okay with 'a'? 'Pack' is not countable?

    Why is this okay?
    2. This is a Windows XP service pack. (OK)

    1a. John's book
    (John is animate; he can own/possess things)
    1b. book of John's (Not OK) Why isn't this okay?

    1.Touching or grabbing people's body is not
    allowed in this game. :(
    2. Touching or grabbing any part of another people's body is not allowed in this game. :(
    3. Touching or grabbing any part of another person's body is not allowed in this game. :D
    4. Touching or grabbing any part of another persons' body is not allowed in this game. :(
    Why do you think 3. is OK and the rest Not OK?
    What's wrong with #1 and #2? I can say 'people's head' but not 'people's body'? Also, why is #4 incorrect?

    9. Iím going to spend one hour on (a/the) MSNís website. :D
    I don't need a determiner here? Why?

    9. Iím going to spend one hour on MSNís website. :D
    I don't need a determiner here but I need one here?

    10. Iím going to spend one hour on MSN website. :(
    10. Iím going to spend one hour on (a/the) MSN website. (Why is this wrong when I don't use the determiner here?)

    12. Iím going to spend one hour on a MSN website. :(
    12. is not OK. MSN is pronounced em-s-n. It's a vowel-initial word so use 'an' i.e., an MSN website
    I can't use 'a MSN website'? What do you mean by 'It's a vowel-initial word so use 'an' i.e., an MSN website.' Don't I use 'a' for 'a,e,i,o, and u"?
    Last edited by jack; 09-Nov-2004 at 07:49.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack
    1. Why is this not okay with 'a'? 'Pack' is not countable?
    It's OK with 'a'. It's the apostrophe that 'not OK' in the phrase "a Windows XP's service pack."

    1b. book of John's (Not OK) Why isn't this okay?
    "John" is human.

    What's wrong with #1 and #2? I can say 'people's head' but not 'people's body'? Also, why is #4 incorrect?
    Where's 1, 2, and 4?

    I don't need a determiner here? Why?
    Where?

    I don't need a determiner here but I need one here?
    Where?

    10. Iím going to spend one hour on (an/the) MSN website. (Why is this wrong when I don't use the determiner here?)
    MSN is a name.
    MSN is pronounced em-s-n. If the first sound of a word is a vowel, then use 'an': an apple, an ice-cream cone, an oven, an MSN file. Note, in the last example, MSN functions as an adjective. It tells us what kind of file. The noun 'file' is a count noun, so it takes 'a'.

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    Thanks.

    Are these correct? If not, why? What do these mean?
    1. This is my former girlfriend's home.
    2. This is my former's girlfriend home.

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    1. former girlfriend's home. Adjective+Possessive Noun+Noun (OK)
    2. former's girlfriend home. Possessive Noun+Noun+Noun (Not OK)

    There's a pattern. Do you see the pattern?

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