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    Please, teachers, could you tell me what are the differences between 'ask over' and 'ask round'.

    If you don't mind, could you proofread all these sentences as well?

    She ask me over for dinner.
    She ask me round for lunch.
    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walking.

    It's still difficult to me to distiguish 'ask' from 'ask for':

    I asked the waitress for the menu.
    I asked for the menu to the waitress.
    I asked for the menu.
    I am asking so many questions.
    I never ask for questions.

    As far as I know, 'ask' and 'ask for' are pretty close in meaning. Am I right?

    Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post
    Please, teachers, could you tell me what are the differences between 'ask over' and 'ask round'. Nothing substantially. Either can be used.

    If you don't mind, could you proofread all these sentences as well?

    She asked me over for dinner.
    She asked me round for lunch.
    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walking. We felt like asking her over to come on a walk.

    It's still difficult to me to distiguish 'ask' from 'ask for':

    I asked the waitress for the menu.
    I asked for the menu to the waitress.from the waitress
    I asked for the menu.
    I am asking so many questions.
    I never ask for questions. I never ask questions.

    As far as I know, 'ask' and 'ask for' are pretty close in meaning. Am I right?
    to ask for something means you are requesting a specific thing. To ask something indicates you are asking a question.

    Thanks in advance
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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Thank you Anglika.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anglika View Post
    I never ask for questions. I never ask questions.
    One more question:

    I know that sentence is awkward, but whether someone, for example a teacher, says to his/her students:

    I am at your service Ladies and Gentlemen, ask me questions about Great Britain, make questions on Shakespeare's life.

    Is this sentence OK?

    I guess it means the teacher is asking for questions (from the students), right?

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post
    Thank you Anglika.

    One more question:

    I know that sentence is awkward, but whether someone, for example a teacher, says to his/her students:

    I am at your service Ladies and Gentlemen, ask me questions=(put questions to me) about Great Britain, make questions on Shakespeare's life.

    Is this sentence OK?

    I guess it means the teacher is asking for questions (from the students), right?Yes, it is a request.

    Many thanks

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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post


    If you don't mind, could you proofread all these sentences as well?


    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walking.
    I suspect that you meant what Anglika offered, Marcio, ie.

    "We felt like asking her over to come on a walk."

    But your example above first struck me as,

    Hey everybody, [do you] feel like asking her over [to go] for a walk.

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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    I suspect that you meant what Anglika offered, Marcio, ie.
    "We felt like asking her over to come on a walk."
    But your example above first struck me as,

    Hey everybody, [do you] feel like asking her over [to go] for a walk.
    My "lack of vocabulary is killing me!

    What do you mean by "struck me as"?

    I suppose my example gave you a doubt.

    anyway:

    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk.
    Everybody/We felt like asking her over for a walk.

    right?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post
    My "lack of vocabulary is killing me!

    What do you mean by "struck me as"?

    "hit me as having the meaning of ...".

    strikes sb as - seems to indicate a meaning of ... to sb


    I suppose my example gave you a doubt.

    anyway:

    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk.
    Everybody/We felt like asking her over for a walk.

    right?

    Thanks
    Yup, they're fine.
    Last edited by riverkid; 13-Apr-2008 at 03:08.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riverkid View Post
    Yup, they're fine.
    They are NEVER! Well, at least one of them.

    Everybody feels like asking her over for a walk.
    or
    We (all) feel like asking her over for a walk.
    or
    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk? (with ellipses of the operator does, and of course putting the question mark at the end!; intonation could do a lot as well)

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    Default Re: ask over, ask over and ask for

    Quote Originally Posted by engee30 View Post
    They are NEVER! Well, at least one of them.

    Everybody feels like asking her over for a walk.
    or
    We (all) feel like asking her over for a walk.
    or
    Everybody feel like asking her over for a walk? (with ellipses of the operator does, and of course putting the question mark at the end!; intonation could do a lot as well)
    I thought the this rule would be used when you are talking about the third person, right? Not just a word.

    Everybody = all of us

    All of us feel like asking her over for a walk.
    Everybody feel file asing her over for a walk.

    However, I just searched on the BRITISH NATIONAL CORPUS and I saw both of the sentences:

    Everybody do ....
    Everybody does ...

    What could you teachers say about this?

    Thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marciobarbalho View Post
    However, I just searched on the BRITISH NATIONAL CORPUS and I saw both of the sentences:

    Everybody do ....
    Everybody does ...

    What could you teachers say about this?

    Thank you very much.
    I would say that using the BNC is perfect for language researchers, but only good for us, students. It contains loads of examples of written and spoken English that break the rules of grammar, but actually this is the language people speak, so for a learner like you and me this device may be too much to distinguish between the correct and the incorrect.

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